Processador AMD ZEN3 (Ryzen 5000 series)

Ya, espero mesmo :007: das duas uma, ou compro os novos se compensar ou aproveito a descida de preço dos actuais. Logo se vê o que é mais vantajoso para mim.

Já há confirmação oficial que irá continuar a ser mesmo AM4? Se sim, poderia já comprar a board para a minha futura build não? Que board aconselham que dê na mesma para 3ª gen ou 4ª gen?
 
Porque? Eu demorei 6meses a montar o meu PC. Se há tempo e oportunidades de escolher bons negócios, porque não?
Porque por exemplo quando acabares de montar vais ter peças que já vão ter menos tempo de garantia. Imagina que demoras 6 meses a montar um PC. As peças ali paradas, quantos vais ligar uma delas não funcionam... Lá se foi a troca. Tens de enviar para RMA.
 
Não existe nenhuma vantagem para comprar hardware aos poucos. Ter peças paradas dentro das caixas apenas porque sim não tem sentido. É que até pode vir estragado (DOA) de loja que não sabes porque estão paradas, para além do desperdício de garantia
 
Expliquem-me uma coisa, os novos Ryzen vão ser praticamente os actuais só que com uns pózinhos para mais GHz e com novos "integrated graphics"?
 
Que novos Ryzen? :)

Os Ryzen 4000G que foram anunciados à uns dias são Ryzens com a mesma arquitectura dos 3000 (sem iGPU) que já estão no mercado à uns meses, mas com gráfica integrada, só até 8 cores, menos cache e só 8 lanes Pci-Ex Gen 3. São Zen 2 e não são Zen 3, que é o que se discute nesta thread.

Ainda este ano, devem sair Ryzens 4000 (Sem G), que esses sim, serão Zen 3, sem gráfica integrada, nova arquitectura, entre outras diferenças que ainda não se conhecem.
 
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Exclusive Leak about AMD’s next CPU generation: “Ryzen 9 4950X” Vermeer with higher boost clock and new features á la Intel
Well, with this description I dare to take a deep grip into the speculation collection,
Let us first come to the beat, that is, what most people are interested in in the first place. What can be ordered for testing from the relevant companies is called 100-000000059-52_48/35_Y. Well, the first part of the OPN is not new, I had already published it, but at the end there is the classification for the clock rates. And that’s exactly what up to 4.8 GHz boost clock at 3.5 GHz base clock for all 16 cores looks quite good.

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This should bring the clock rates closer to the final maximum, because it’s not too long until the launch is announced and at some point the finished samples will have to be tested thoroughly. But there are several reasons how to reach the 4.8 GHz now, but I have one of them exclusively for you, because there will also be a new playground for overclockers. But more on that in a moment.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/exclusiv...-high-boost-tact-and-new-features-a-la-intel/
 
Alegadamente há um ES do 4950X a 3.7 Ghz Base e 4.9 Ghz Turbo.

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The faster of the two samples now boosts to 4.9 GHz, while the base clock is set to 3.7 GHz. In contrast to the previous ES, this is another visible increase and shows that you probably also slowly fight your way towards the 5 GHz mark at the boost clock. Whether this psychological and especially for marketing so important brand will be cracked is still open. But at least with this ES the next step has been taken. From one of the slower ES could then perhaps also emerge the Ryzen 9 4950 / 5950 without X, which is certainly needed in the portfolio.

Também há 2 instruções novas:

ERMS = Enhanced Repeat Move String
FSRM = Fast Short Repeat Move String


With the new Zen3 CPUs, Fast Short REP MOV (FSRM) is finally added to AMD’s CPU functions analog to Intel’s X86_FEATURE_FSRM. Intel had already introduced this in 2017 with the Ice Lake Client microarchitecture. But now AMD is obviously using this feature to increase the performance of REP MOVSB for short and very short operations. This improvement applies to Intel for string lengths between 1 and 128 bytes and one can assume that AMD’s implementation will look the same for compatibility reasons. usually you even coordinate your actions.

As early as 2013, Intel decided to make a major revision to REP MOVS and implemented the CPUID ERMSB bit (Enhanced REP MOVSB) to indicate that the CPU could handle byte-sized motion and memory instructions quickly and efficiently. In addition to adding FSRM to the x86 feature code, ERMS is therefore also very interesting, as it allows the bandwidth to be increased considerably, which is a not inconsiderable advantage and logically complements FSRM.

Simplified it can be rewritten so that the MOVS command copies data from one memory area to another. If you now prefix the MOVS command with the prefix REP, this command is repeated as long as you specify it before. However, unlike FSRM, ERMS mainly concerns larger blocks from 256 bits upwards and must always be forward looking. However, ERMS also has a major disadvantage, as it requires a few cycles to be run first (startup latency). Depending on the size, FSRM may be the better alternative for smaller operations.

Of course all this is also operating system dependent and must be implemented in the kernel first. But since Intel has already been using this for years, AMD should be able to break down open doors with Vermeer

https://www.igorslab.de/en/cracks-o...lemented-further-x86-instructions-from-intel/
 
Sinceramente, se este turbo for a mesma porcaria que os Zen 2, então é tudo uma palhaçada já que não consegue sequer manter essa velocidade com 1 core.
 
O Cezanne a vir novamente com Vega e 8 CUs é a prova do bootleneck que DDR4 impõe e existir 3 gerações com a mesma arquitectura gráfica.

Só no AM5 que deve vir um APU RDNA mais musculoso...
 
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