Processador Intel Ice Lake (? geração)

[Nemesis11]

Nunca percebi bem a diferença entre o socket LGA4189-5 e LGA4189-4. Uma versão superior de Pci-Ex não deveria precisar de um socket diferente, com os mesmos pinos, mas pode-me estar a escapar algo.

Fica aqui uma Board ATX para o Ice Lake-SP:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1653...b700-motherboard-lga4189-for-intel-ice-lakesp

O Chipset desta board continua a ser da plataforma anterior (Purley).

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Essa é a mesma board que eu coloquei, da Axiomtek.

Hoje já apareceu mais uma, esta dual socket, e com 8 canais de memória

Intel Ice Lake is based on 3rd Generation Intel Xeon Ice Lake Scalable Processor in LGA4189 Socket with C621A chipset, up to 40 cores, 270W TDP. Intel Ice Lake-SP processors will be based on the 10nm+ process node. The main highlight of Ice Lake-SP processors will be support for PCIe Gen 4 and 8-channel DDR4 memory.

https://7starlake.com/products/comp...ence/av2000#f15b8cebb35ef3e2be1107a0e5ddb7be1

 

[Nemesis11]

Ena. Isto deve estar perto de levantar voo.

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Intel Ice Lake Xeon Scalable Shipments To Date: 30 Customers, 100k+ Units

So cue my surprise that today, in an on-the-record call with Intel SVP and GM of the Xeon Memory Group Lisa Spelman, as we were discussing Intel’s enterprise strategy as it relates to offering complete solutions, open source libraries, and automatic optimizations on the latest feature set, some numbers were given. Lisa stated that, to date, Intel has shipped 115,000 units of Ice Lake Xeon Scalable to 30 of its key advance customers.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1653...ble-shipments-to-date-30-customers-100k-units

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Intel’s DPG Launch Event April 6th: Early Look at 3rd Gen Xeon Scalable (Ice Lake)

This event is set to ‘unveil the next chapter’ in all the areas that Intel’s DPG touches, from edge to cloud, as well as offering an early look at 3rd Gen Intel Xeon Scalable systems, which we’ve come to understand is the Ice Lake Xeon platform. Key speakers at the event include Intel’s new CEO, Pat Gelsinger.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/1656...al&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter

A Dell já tinha apresentado alguns novos sistemas e já tinha anunciado que iam sair com os Ice Lake Xeon e os Milan.
https://www.servethehome.com/dell-emc-poweredge-2021-portfolio-with-milan-and-ice-lake/

 

[Nemesis11]

The key headliner, present in our email but not on Intel’s website, is that the event will host an ‘early look at 3rd Gen Intel Xeon Scalable processor-based systems’. It is unclear if this means CPUs or just OEM designs, or if we’ll see benchmarks.

Isto deve ser dos lançamentos mais longos de um processador. A Intel deve ter conseguido bater algum tipo de record. É um lançamento em "slow motion", sempre com anúncios genéricos e que podem ter várias interpretações.
Vamos lá ver se é agora que se vão conseguir comprar processadores e sistemas, com o Ice Lake-SP.

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Parece que é mesmo oficialmente oficial:

March 22, 2021 – Join Intel’s Navin Shenoy, executive vice president in the Data Platforms Group, and Lisa Spelman, corporate vice president in the Xeon and Memory Group, on April 6 for the launch of the latest 3rd Gen Intel® Xeon® Scalable processors (code-named “Ice Lake”) and the latest additions to Intel’s hardware and software portfolio targeting data centers, 5G networks and intelligent edge infrastructure.

https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/media-alert-launch-3rd-gen-intel-xeon-scalable-portfolio/?

De resto, pelo menos a Dell a propósito do lançamento dos PowerEdge 2021 já teve o OK da Intel e tinha divulgado há dias o 1º sistema baseado no Ice Lake Xeon

XR11 e XR12 são Intel Ice Lake

XE8545 é AMD 7003 e o R750xa é Intel Ice Lake

One of the cool parts of this release is that Dell EMC got approval from Intel to give us our first glimpse from a major systems vendor of the 3rd Generation Intel Xeon Scalable Ice Lake server internals. One can see that we have front-mounted accelerators on either side of the middle drive bays, then the fan partition, then two Socket P’s (P4) with eight DIMMs per socket. It also looks like Dell EMC has some special heat pipe cooling near the front of its heatsinks going to the fan area.

Overall this is a very different platform that looks like it is accommodating PCIe accelerators. That means Dell EMC has the top-end acceleration platform as the XE8545 and the R750xa is the lower end platform.

In terms of the rack servers, there are AMD and Intel offerings. The AMD offerings (PowerEdge R7515, R6515, R7525 and R6525) have largely been released already. One will notice the conspicuous placement of the R7525 and R6525 at the top of the stack. When we reviewed the Dell EMC PowerEdge R7525 we noted that the machine is very well built. It is fairly clear that Dell was positioning this as its premium solution for 3rd generation parts.

The new servers are the R550, R450, R750xs, R650xs, R750, and R650. These are the six Intel solutions and they are only six because Dell has added the xs variants which could have represented options in previous generations of R7x0 and R6x0 servers.

https://www.servethehome.com/dell-emc-poweredge-2021-portfolio-with-milan-and-ice-lake/

Apenas um aparte, a Dell não irá ter qualquer oferta baseada no Cooper Lake Xeon

We asked Dell about the lack of a Cooper Lake Xeon platform since we have already looked at Supermicro SYS-240P-TNRT 4P 3rd Gen Xeon Scalable Server and the Gigabyte R292-4S1 Server Review. HPE, Lenovo, and Inspur also have 4P Cooper Lake systems. Dell said that the 4P market is shrinking and that it is declining to update its 4-socket platforms with that portion of the 3rd Generation Intel Xeon Scalable product.

 

[Dark Kaeser]

O título diz tudo

Intel 3rd Gen Xeon Scalable (Ice Lake SP) Review: Generationally Big, Competitively Small​

Generationally Impressive​

Technically, Ice Lake SP is an impressive and major generation leap for Intel’s enterprise line-up. Manufactured on a new 10nm process, node, employing a new core microarchitecture, faster memory with more memory channels, PCIe 4.0, new accelerator capabilities and VNNI instructions, security improvements – these are all just the tip of the iceberg that Ice Lake SP brings to the table.

The Competitive Hurdle Still Stands​

As impressive as the new Xeon 8380 is from a generational and technical stand-point, what really matters at the end of the day is how it fares up to the competition. I’ll be blunt here; nobody really expected the new ICL-SP parts to beat AMD or the new Arm competition – and it didn’t. The competitive gap had been so gigantic, with silly scenarios such as where competing 1-socket systems would outperform Intel’s 2-socket solutions. Ice Lake SP gets rid of those more embarrassing situations, and narrows the performance gap significantly, however the gap still remains, and is still undeniable.

We’ve only had access limited to the flagship Xeon 8380 and the mid-stack Xeon 6330 for the review today, however in a competitive landscape, both those chips lose out in both absolute performance as well as price/performance compared to AMD’s line-up.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16594/intel-3rd-gen-xeon-scalable-review

Intel Xeon Ice Lake Edition Marks the Start and End of an Era​

https://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-ice-lake-edition-marks-the-start-and-end-of-an-era/

Intel Fields A 10 Nanometer Server Chip That Competes​

https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/04/06/intel-fields-a-10-nanometer-server-chip-that-competes/

 

[Nemesis11]

Acho que do lado dos clientes, esta plataforma faz pouco sentido. Não só perde para todos os adversários, como é 1 Socket que terá um tempo de vida muito pequeno. Além disso, esperava que os preços fossem mais baixos.

De resto, vi um chassis interessante para o mercado HPC, de uma empresa Russa, que usa Water Cooling.

Isto tem um volume mesmo muito pequeno. Dá para colocar 153 destes num Rack 42U.

 

[JPgod]

Era gajo para comprar isso e esconder debaixo da mesa, se tivesse $$$

 

[Nemesis11]

A Supermicro tem umas boards para o mercado Workstation, para estes Ice Lakes, mas não esse formato.
Por acaso até são interessantes:

Só faltam ali uns RGBs, para serem perfeitas.

 

[JPgod]

Mas já viste o tamanho dos animais? Só deve caber num armário como Phanteks Enthoo 719

Daqui a pouco aparece a Asrock com uma ITX com 4 sodimms

 

[Nemesis11]

Mas já viste o tamanho dos animais? Só deve caber num armário como Phanteks Enthoo 719

Daqui a pouco aparece a Asrock com uma ITX com 4 sodimms

Sim, são enormes, mas com um socket daquele tamanho, é difícil fazer uma board pequena. Então quando se usa dois sockets, mais complicado se torna.
A Asrock é capaz de fazer uma versão mini-itx, mas provavelmente naquele formato "Long", que tem as mesmas furações, mas é um pouco maior.

A Supermicro também lançou boards "pequenas", só que para o mercado Servidor e não Workstation.

Por exemplo, eles conseguiram fazer boards ATX, com 2 Sockets:

E boards Micro-ATX com 1 Socket:

Não há nada que torne impossível usar estas boards em Desktop, mas é preciso dar umas "voltas" para as converter.

 

[JPgod]

Esta microATX ta gira, da para montar um belo workstation/server compacto

As ITX nao fazem muito sentido, imho...

 

[Dark Kaeser]

@JPgod

About Next Generation Intel Xeon D Processors: Code-named “Ice Lake-D,” these processors are designed to support denser, size-constrained and ruggedized designs at the edge. Intel is now sampling these processors and working with customers and partners including Cisco for networking products, Supermicro for FlexRAN-based vRAN solutions and Rakuten Mobile for next-generation RAN products to serve higher capacity needs.

https://newsroom.intel.com/news/new-intel-processors-accelerate-5g-network-transformation/#gs.y7nbp3

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1379802329382219777

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1379803747711295489

Assim já deve dar para Mini-ITX

 

[Dark Kaeser]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1381583656825708544

HCC: Stepping M1

 

[Nemesis11]

Eish, 13 revisões grandes. Qualquer dia a Intel vai adicionar o alfabeto cirílico ao latino.
Que grande pesadelo. Seria engraçado saber quando é que foi feito o tape out, até porque o Ice Lake não é um Core recente e quanto é que custou o seu desenvolvimento. Ainda por cima um processador que deverá ter grande tempo de vida e parece ser uma estrada sem saída.
Também é curioso não terem uma versão LCC. Se calhar têm muitos XCC e HCC com problemas, para os SKUs com poucos cores.

 

[JPgod]

No código do OSX 12 "Monterey" apareceu informação do Ice-lake-SP

Capaz da Apple ainda dar mais uma rodada da mac pro @ Intel x86 / AMD GPUs antes do switch over total para hardware in house.

é provavel que até exista um mac pro ARM em paralelo, o que pode indicar que os chips de 20C e 40C que se fala pode ainda não ter a potencia de um server/workstation x86 CPU

até porque o Ice Lake pode ir até 40C/80T e assim ter mais poder de processamento do que 40C mixed entre high power e efficient cores

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/06/08/intel-mac-pro-xcode-13/

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Acho que é capaz de ser o primeiro sistema para HPC anunciado

Atos Multiplies Supercomputing Capacity by 12 at CESGA in Spain with New ‘Finisterrae III’​

Technical specifications:

Finisterrae III will multiply the computing capacity of the previous CESGA supercomputer by twelve, providing a computing power of 4 PetaFLOPS through 354 computing nodes equipped with latest generation Intel Xeon Ice Lake 8352Y processors of 32 cores at 2.2GHz.

It also incorporates a total of 144 GPU accelerators: Nvidia A100 and Nvidia T4 GPU.

https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wir...2-at-cesga-in-spain-with-new-finisterrae-iii/

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Intel Launches Xeon W-3300: Ice Lake for Workstations, up to 38 Cores​

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16822/intel-launches-xeon-w-3300-3365-ice-lake-workstations-38-core

Inclui alguns benches contra o Skylake W e TR Pro.