petersaints
Power Member
Espero que não seja verdade porque senão os K10 suckam bué... Até o K8 e os Core 2 devem ser iguais... É desta que a AMD vai à falencia! LoL
Barcelona... 1ºs benchs!
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Bodygard
Folding Member
Se isso acontecesse preparavam-se para começar a pagar os Intel a preço de ouro...
Espero bem que isto não se confirme para bem de todos nós.
Eu acho que o Barcelona vai ter pior perfomance que um 386, a AMD vai abrir falência e vamos ficar todos contentes a usar produtos Intel.
Agora a sério, e que tal esperarem por testes mais conclusivos com produtos que efectivamente já estejam no mercado para tirarem conclusões?
Agora a sério, e que tal esperarem por testes mais conclusivos com produtos que efectivamente já estejam no mercado para tirarem conclusões?
black_edition
Power Member
petersaints
Power Member
Zarolho
Power Member
Ainda há esperança...
«...Originally posted by: Viditor
There appears to be some problems in those reports...
1. It reports as an Opty 2332, but also as a Phenom/Agena (the 2332 is a socket 1207, the Agena is a socket AM2+)
2. It's only a stepping 1 chip...»
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«...The latest Barcelona chips are B02 steppings with one more to go. Believe me, the reason we did not post any numbers at Computex or since then is the simple fact that the CPU/boards/BIOS have undergone dramatic changes over the course of the summer. If you have an earlier stepping there is a very good chance that HT and the secondary cache is disabled, this will affect the benchmarks dramatically. We expect to see final stepping chips and board revisions early next week, until then, it is all speculation for the most part.
The one caveat that I will add, this chip really does not get into a groove until you get over 2.4GHz and then it scales incredibly well. Also, the first RD790 boards we have will undergo another spin so any Phenom results with those boards are subject to interpretation depending on whether you like AMD or not...»
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2090639#27132633
Dia 9/10 de Setembro vai ser tudo esclarecido pela AMD.... Até lá..
«...Originally posted by: Viditor
There appears to be some problems in those reports...
1. It reports as an Opty 2332, but also as a Phenom/Agena (the 2332 is a socket 1207, the Agena is a socket AM2+)
2. It's only a stepping 1 chip...»
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«...The latest Barcelona chips are B02 steppings with one more to go. Believe me, the reason we did not post any numbers at Computex or since then is the simple fact that the CPU/boards/BIOS have undergone dramatic changes over the course of the summer. If you have an earlier stepping there is a very good chance that HT and the secondary cache is disabled, this will affect the benchmarks dramatically. We expect to see final stepping chips and board revisions early next week, until then, it is all speculation for the most part.
The one caveat that I will add, this chip really does not get into a groove until you get over 2.4GHz and then it scales incredibly well. Also, the first RD790 boards we have will undergo another spin so any Phenom results with those boards are subject to interpretation depending on whether you like AMD or not...»
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2090639#27132633
Dia 9/10 de Setembro vai ser tudo esclarecido pela AMD.... Até lá..
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Foi postado no forum do coolaler, mas não foi ele.
lol 39 segundos e vergonhoso
aqui o meu 6420 default com varios programas abertos faz 25 xD
nesta pic
http://img.coolaler.com.tw/images/mawngo04gmhmwdiyjtze.jpg
o CPU-z diz que so tem 1 core e uma thread, mas em cima ja diz quad core, e o gestor de tarefas da 8 cores ?
deve ser erro do CPU-z , mas fiquei sem perceber se aquilo e tem 8 nucleos ou e quad
e o cinebench e um resultado bom? sei que aquele teste e bom para muitos cores, mas nao conheco os resultados normais para comparar
aqui o meu 6420 default com varios programas abertos faz 25 xD
nesta pic
http://img.coolaler.com.tw/images/mawngo04gmhmwdiyjtze.jpg
o CPU-z diz que so tem 1 core e uma thread, mas em cima ja diz quad core, e o gestor de tarefas da 8 cores ?
deve ser erro do CPU-z , mas fiquei sem perceber se aquilo e tem 8 nucleos ou e quad
e o cinebench e um resultado bom? sei que aquele teste e bom para muitos cores, mas nao conheco os resultados normais para comparar
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petersaints
Power Member
Que eu saiba os K10 não vão ter Octo-Core mas nunca se sabe la mais para o fim da geração K10 
DJ_PAPA
Power Member
Ainda há esperança...
«...Originally posted by: Viditor
There appears to be some problems in those reports...
1. It reports as an Opty 2332, but also as a Phenom/Agena (the 2332 is a socket 1207, the Agena is a socket AM2+)
2. It's only a stepping 1 chip...»
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«...The latest Barcelona chips are B02 steppings with one more to go. Believe me, the reason we did not post any numbers at Computex or since then is the simple fact that the CPU/boards/BIOS have undergone dramatic changes over the course of the summer. If you have an earlier stepping there is a very good chance that HT and the secondary cache is disabled, this will affect the benchmarks dramatically. We expect to see final stepping chips and board revisions early next week, until then, it is all speculation for the most part.
The one caveat that I will add, this chip really does not get into a groove until you get over 2.4GHz and then it scales incredibly well. Also, the first RD790 boards we have will undergo another spin so any Phenom results with those boards are subject to interpretation depending on whether you like AMD or not...»
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2090639#27132633
Dia 9/10 de Setembro vai ser tudo esclarecido pela AMD.... Até lá..
Acho essa análise bem mais razoável.
é dual quad-core
Zarolho
Power Member
«...1. Around 2.4GHz and higher you will want to run CAS4 1066 and at 3GHz+, we expect/estimate that 1333 CAS5 will come in handy.
AMD is working very closely with the memory suppliers at this time to get low latency DDR2-1066 ready quickly and to start looking at DDR2-1333 next year before they worry about the switch to DDR3. Memory latencies are going to be a key with this CPU and the performance oriented consumer chipsets.
2. The current AM2+ boards are still immature from a driver/chipset viewpoint, at least to the point of not providing benchmarks yet, once they get closer, expect some numbers.
3. The lower speed Barcelonas on the server chipsets are not going to shine that well in a lot of consumer applications (against higher clocked Yorkfields, but that is not the target market right now), so AMD desperately needs to get the speeds up for this chip to show its true potential. Right now, its doing a lot better than what we saw at Computex and we understand the latest silicon is a marked improvement (several of the board guys were extremely pleased with the last samples) over the last spin we tested. The numbers will be out in a couple of weeks, some will be very happy, some will not, but at least the damn thing will finally be shipping.
p.s. Not trying to be vague, just until the final CPU samples are in and the green light is given by the board guys, no real point in guesstimating...»
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«...1. The capability of this core to utilize memory bandwidth is greatly improved over A64 X2 and as such, latencies will be critical. One of many changes, but a welcome one for scaling purposes.
2. I meant true AM2+ boards, the ones that fully support HT 3.0, etc... the two chipsets from AMD and NVIDIA are not ready for prime time yet, although they are looking good at this point, even with a 6400+.
3. I am not going to guesstimate until the final chips arrive and we get a BIOS update for the consumer chipsets.
But you are fairly close...
I will be guesstimating on the X38 tomorrow...»
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2090639#27132633
2. The current AM2+ boards are still immature from a driver/chipset viewpoint, at least to the point of not providing benchmarks yet, once they get closer, expect some numbers.
3. The lower speed Barcelonas on the server chipsets are not going to shine that well in a lot of consumer applications (against higher clocked Yorkfields, but that is not the target market right now), so AMD desperately needs to get the speeds up for this chip to show its true potential. Right now, its doing a lot better than what we saw at Computex and we understand the latest silicon is a marked improvement (several of the board guys were extremely pleased with the last samples) over the last spin we tested. The numbers will be out in a couple of weeks, some will be very happy, some will not, but at least the damn thing will finally be shipping.
p.s. Not trying to be vague, just until the final CPU samples are in and the green light is given by the board guys, no real point in guesstimating...»
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«...1. The capability of this core to utilize memory bandwidth is greatly improved over A64 X2 and as such, latencies will be critical. One of many changes, but a welcome one for scaling purposes.
2. I meant true AM2+ boards, the ones that fully support HT 3.0, etc... the two chipsets from AMD and NVIDIA are not ready for prime time yet, although they are looking good at this point, even with a 6400+.
3. I am not going to guesstimate until the final chips arrive and we get a BIOS update for the consumer chipsets.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=2090639#27132633
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Horus-Anhur
I folded Myself
É no que dá a AMD manter-se tão fechada sobre os seus produtos. Estamos a 10 dias do lançamento do K10 e quase não se sabe nada do seu desempenho. É tanta a especulação, sobre o desempenho, sobre as velocidades, sobre os steppings que o resultado acaba por ser desinformação.
ya acho que ate perdem com isso (pelo menos se forem bons
)a intel com os core 2 duo meses antes ja se sabia o que ia sair.. tanto que muita gente (como eu) era para comprar plataforma AMD e esperou ainda uns meses pelos c2d
acho que isto vai ser como o R600..
so quando sair e que as reviews sao de confiar.. ate la ..
Ricardo C.
Power Member
Humm, é demasiado antigo mas nos Intel conseguem menos de 20 segundos ou menos 10-15 com um pouco de overclock e estes amandam-se para cima dos 30 ? 
VoRtAn_MaDgE
A.S.Team performed
Existiu até á data algum cpu que entrando no mercado tivesse um resultado no pi inferior face ao seu irmão mais velho por exemplo?
Penso que não ....
Penso que não ....
blastarr
Power Member
Socket 939 vs AM2 à mesma velocidade de relógio, cada um com o tipo de memória respectivo (e módulos de RAM com bons timmings).
Quem ganha ?
Aqui nem se está a comparar o "Barcelona" com um Athlon 64 X2.
Basta comparar com um Core 2 Quad ou um Xeon quad-core e reparar que algo está errado.