Fusão ou compra da nVidia pela Intel (Rumor)

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Guru3D - Jen-Hsun Huang will become new Intel CEO - NV merges with Intel

A new crazy rumor that Intel and NVIDIA are in talks about future developments, cross licensing and potentially even a merger between the two companies. Last decade both Intel and AMD tried to acquire NVIDIA, but these acquisition talks failed because Huang insisted on becoming the CEO of the new entity. With Intel CEO Paul Otellini retiring in May, some Intel board members reportedly feel that the chip giant needs an outsider with a fresh perspective, and perhaps Huang is just the right man with the vision to propel Intel into the future.

This time around, our sources have said that Intel did not categorically say no to one of requirements, should Nvidia be acquired - and that is that the CEO of Nvidia and the senior management take over the respectable roles in the new entity, regardless of the entity size. Remember that this requirement sunk the finalization of Nvidia-AMD tie up in 2005, which in turn ended with AMD paying $5.9 billion for ATI Technologies.

Bear in mind that Intel's BoD announced that for the first time in history, the company is considering an external person for the role of CEO, as the investors feel that the company hasn't done enough in the mobile segment. Naturally, investors in general don't have a clue how semiconductor companies work and make profit, since for every smartphone there is a high revenue chip that delivers the service - but the Street wants to see companies battling for pennies on the dollar. As the old credo goes - What The Street wants, The Street Gets - and Intel is now entering the pennies (SoC) versus dollar (Enterprise CPUs) market in terms of profits.

Mesmo sendo um rumor, provavelmente com pouco fundamento, acaba por ser algo interessante apenas pelas possibilidades que poderia permitir.
Uma Intel com os seus CPUs e processos de fabrico com acesso à tecnologia de GPUs da nVidia seria um monstro no mercado.
 
Acho que as autoridades da concorrência não iam gostar da 'brincadeira'.
A Intel é o maior vendedor de gpu's e estava para comprar a 2 ou 3ª empresa da área, deixando apenas um 2º 'grande' concorrente.

Gostava de ver uma noticia era do tipo 'AMD adquire Qualcomm ou divisão ARM da TI'... IMO isso seria mais interessante e melhor para todos nós a médio-longo prazo...

Uma Intel com os seus CPUs e processos de fabrico com acesso à tecnologia de GPUs da nVidia seria um monstro no mercado.

Um monstro muito mau para todos nós, porque ia acabar por limitar o desenvolvimento e subir preços atendendo à falta de concorrência séria que ia ter.....



Qual é a importância de ser um CEO? Acho que esse Huang tem muitas manias...

CEO é ser o 'patrão'/chefe daquilo tudo.
É o que Bill Gates foi na M$ e Steve Jobs na Apple [e agora é o Tim Cook].

Depois há a 'board' de directores, que 'controlam' o desempenho do CEO, mas só para fiscalizar, o CEO é o topo da decisão de estratégias, investimentos e rumo que a empresa toma.
 
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Acho que a AMD não tem capacidade para comprar muita coisa neste momento.
Aliás, mais depressa acredito que a Qualcomm venha a comprar a AMD, do que o inverso.

Em 2011 as receitas da Qualcomm foram de 10 080 milhões de dólares e as da AMD foram de 6 483 milhões.
 
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Sim, isso é verdade, só disse aquilo num sentido figurado, de ver o know how na AMD a virar-se a sério para os ARM [também pelo que têm nos GPU's].


Mas se para os lados da AMD delineassem uma estratégia a sério - ou mesmo maluca, desde que convencesse - para investir forte no ARM e que aí estaria 'O' futuro, os sheiks sempre poderiam abrir os cordões à bolsa recheada de petrodólares que têm e permitisse uma aquisição ou outra.. lol
 
Para o consumidor era lixado... mas tecnologicamente era uma coisa enorme, dois monstros a unir-se num só...
Rebentavam com qualquer competição em cpu's ou gpu's...
 
A mesma noticia, mas de outra fonte e com muito mais informação o que em certa medida a torna mais credível.

Crazy Rumor: Intel to Acquire Nvidia, Jen-Hsun the New CEO of Intel?

The semiconductor business is a highly cyclical one, with average length of technology agreements lasting for not more than four quarters. Thus, as the end of every year approaches, you'll see various rumors taking shape - which are a typical result of companies discussing supply for the next product cycle. One traditional rumor is the negotiation for the Apple TV between Apple and Sharp, for example - which if true, would typically be agreed around 2-3 cycles in advance, rather than a "let's do it tomorrow" gung-ho approach which rumor sites typically insist on.

Thus, when we heard a rumor that Intel and Nvidia are sitting at "a coffee table" discussing the future developments, cross licensing and the like… we dismissed it as a seasonal thing. Remember, that Intel is still paying Nvidia installments of that chipset blunder settlement of yesteryear. That sum is totaling $1.5 billion dollars, and represents nothing but a chink in Intel's armor (2011 revenue: $54.0 billion, 2011 net income: $17.5 billion).

During the recent travels in the U.A.E., we heard a rumor which is bound to arrive on one website or another. The people who talked to us stated that the rumored acquisition talks are an extension to the technology licensing one, and that the "book of magic", Nvidia's standard ToE - should the company end up being acquired.
Both companies have an active NDA which prevents them to talk about the said deal. The in-depth NDA (which enables to dig around finances, finding skeletons in the closet, etc.) comes from the first talks both companies had about the acquisition, which would have seen Intel Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge processors to be powered by GeForce graphics. Nvidia said no, as we all know now.

This time around, our sources have said that Intel did not categorically say no to one of requirements, should Nvidia be acquired - and that is that the CEO of Nvidia and the senior management take over the respectable roles in the new entity, regardless of the entity size. Remember that this requirement sunk the finalization of Nvidia-AMD tie up in 2005, which in turn ended with AMD paying $5.9 billion for ATI Technologies.

Bear in mind that Intel's BoD announced that for the first time in history, the company is considering an external person for the role of CEO, as the investors feel that the company hasn't done enough in the mobile segment. Naturally, investors in general don't have a clue how semiconductor companies work and make profit, since for every smartphone there is a high revenue chip that delivers the service - but the Street wants to see companies battling for pennies on the dollar. As the old credo goes - What The Street wants, The Street Gets - and Intel is now entering the pennies (SoC) versus dollar (Enterprise CPUs) market in terms of profits.

The difference between Nvidia and a lot of other companies is that Jen-Hsun Huang, the founder and CEO enjoys full support of the Nvidia's Board of Directors, and previous acquisition attempts (made by Intel as well) all landed on rocky surface. Howevever, should the Nvidia receive what they want (a CEO position), then everything could be arranged.

Nvidia has shown it can raise to the challenge in almost any market, even when the result is that Intel, the co-founder of GENIVI automotive electronics alliance - gets thrown out from BMW cars and replaced with Tegras (for the infotainment system, of course). The company is currently valued at just $7.82 billion, which is a small chunk of change for Intel, which had higher profits. Given the cost of IP and other liabilities, the acquisition would probably not be below $15 billion - but that's a wide ballpark figure.

Just like the upcoming merger between American Airlines and US Airways, where US Airways will "eat up" American and end up being named American (don't ask for logic, stronger brand name survives) - but having US Airways management for the company's leadership. Similar things happened with Continental and United merger, where the CEO of a smaller company ended up running a bigger entity.

If we really end up with Jen-Hsun Huang at the head of Intel Corporation, even if for a limited time, that would be a shift in several orders of magnitude. Nvidia with Intel's resources? This rumor should be taken not with a grain of salt, but rather with a whole 18-wheeler truck filled with the said ingredient.

And if you think that this is absolute crazy, remember - it was Intel that came to Nvidia to ask for GeForce GPU to be integrated with the Intel x86 CPU for products which you know today as Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, Haswell and all. Regardless of what Intel soldiers tell you, most of improvements of the said CPUs were in the GPUs.

Personally, as an industry insider with 13 years of experience - I've seen stranger things happen, but I would say this rumor would even make sense. As a disclaimer, I do not own stocks in any of the companies we report about.
 
Não sei pq parece April Fools, mas como estamos longe de abril ....

Bem, não se pode negar que o Sr. Huang tem visão para certas coisas. Resta é saber se essa visão tem sucesso à frente de uma Intel que tem andado a cumprir os roadmaps, ao invés de uma nVidia que anda a cumprir sucessivas alterações aos roadmaps.
 
Não sei pq parece April Fools, mas como estamos longe de abril ....

Bem, não se pode negar que o Sr. Huang tem visão para certas coisas. Resta é saber se essa visão tem sucesso à frente de uma Intel que tem andado a cumprir os roadmaps, ao invés de uma nVidia que anda a cumprir sucessivas alterações aos roadmaps.

Essas alterações nos roadmaps existem porque eles acreditam que determinado produto pode permanecer mais tempo no mercado ou que o novo produto ainda não pode entrar...
 
O mundo gira a volta do dinheiro

e a especulação, que pode tornar mercados menos eficientes e assim desvalorizar acções, faz parte de estrategias. Estrategias por parte de qualquer um em função dos objectivo.

Agora para o "core" deste fórum só interessam as tecnologias e a que preços. E claro que uma compra ou fusão ia prejudicar o consumidor por causa do monopólio, pelas razões obvias.
Mas quem sabe se por este meio a evolução tecnológica no ramo informático não irá abrandar?!

Estou farto de fazer hoje uma pesquisa sobre uma possível compra (um pc portátil), e hoje encontrar uma coisa, amanha já aparece outra melhor. Acabo por comprar um, e passado 2/3 meses já tenho um melhor no mercado e ainda a um preço mais baixo ou igual.

Concluindo, prefiro pagar agora +50€ e saber que daqui 6 meses não penso em comprar outro novo porque entretanto apareceram mais não sei quantos modelos superiores ao meu!
 
A Intel foi atrás de uma tecnologia qualquer da 3dLabs que poderá revolucionar os gráficos em telemoveis/tablets... (do que me lembro vagamente)

Agora não sei se foi pelas patentes ou por medo que fosse comprada pela nVidia and such...


Talvez tenha algo a haver com o "100 core SoC"
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Nvidia’s CEO approached by Intel headhunters


It’s an unlikely thing, we know, but we don’t do April Fool’s jokes. Sources at Intel Santa Clara have assured us that the CEO of Nvidia, Jen-Hsen Huang was approached by headhunters seeking for a replacement for Paul Otellini, who stands down at the chip giant at the end of May.

Jen-Hsen, who worked for AMD in a former incarnation, is on record as saying that if he worked for Intel it would only be as the head of the corporation.

Noted for his incredible work ethic, Jen-Hsen built Nvidia up more or less from scratch. But its unclear how far the approaches went – Intel’s head hunters are more or less scrabbling around trying to find the successor for Otellini.

Pat Gelsinger, chief technology officer at EMC, has signalled that he’s not interested in the job. Internal candidates include Dadi Perlmutter.

The future CEO of Intel, whoever she or he is, faces a daunting task. Faced with the fact of convergence and people moving in droves to use smartphones and tablets without any X86 device inside, Intel, basically, needs to be completely re-engineered.


Read more: http://news.techeye.net/chips/nvidias-ceo-approached-by-intel-headhunters#ixzz2PISk85IA

E esta hein! Exactamente o que o Jen-Hsen Huang gosta, ter o cargo de topo numa grande empresa e há poucas que sejam maiores e tão avançadas como a Intel.
 
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