G8x and beyond

blastarr

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Bom, acho que isto merece uma thread própria, visto que a outra é sobre as actuais topo-de-gama 8800 GTX/8800 GTS.
É uma reprodução de um post do moderador do Beyond3D.com que pode ter alguma relevância acerca daquilo que podemos esperar na restante família G8x e futura família G9x.
Como o próprio indica, isto é apenas um ponto de referência para discussão, não é necessariamente exacto em todos os pormenores.

As referências 90GT, 80GT e 80HS dizem respeito ao tamanho e ao tipo/qualidade de processo de fabrico da TSMC (GT é o topo de gama, HS é o processo mais económico, mas aínda há mais opções; não existe um só processo 90nm, e um só 80nm).



The following is speculative, and should not be considered based on any non-public information, as it quite simply is not so!
The codenames used are most certainly incorrect, and some might not even have their own codenames. As such, they are used exclusively to permit further discussion, and nothing else!


February->March 2007
G81: Optical shrink of G80 on 80GT (G80 currently is on 90GT - R600 is either on 80GT or 80HS). Introduces the 7/8 clusters SKU. Exact specifications (identical to G80 on 90GT or not; GDDR4 or not; etc.) depend on the R600's specifications. 1.1GHz GDDR4 and 600-625MHz is possible, if considered necessary. If such a step is taken, the parts with redundancy would likely also use GDDR4, which would define the 8900 line-up. There will NOT be a notebook version.
G82: G8x on 80GT with 6 native clusters and 5 native ROP partitions. Can act as a 8800GTS (which will then cost $399) or a 8700-series GPU, which would likely have 5 active clusters, 4 active ROP partitions and a 256-bit memory bus. This is needed for the 8800(/8900?)GTS, as G81 will mostly be 8/7 cluster parts due to improved yields with the smaller 80nm die. There will be a notebook version. Maybe pin-compatible with G81(?)
G83: G8x on 80GT(?) with 4 native clusters and 2 native ROP partitions. 192-bit memory bus and roughly $199 target introduction price. 8600/8500-Series, possible version with 3 active clusters.

March->May 2007
G84: G8x on 80GT(?) with 3 native clusters and 2 native ROP partitions. Version with 2 active clusters and 2 native ROP partitions. 128-bit memory bus. 8400/8300-Series. Maybe pin-compatible with G83(?)
G8i: G8x-based Intel IGP on 80GT(?) with 1 native cluster and 1 ROP partition, that has even less blending units, maybe no extra double-z, etc.(?)
G8a: Same as G8i, but for AMD's socket AM2.

June->August 2007
G85: G8x on 65nm, 2 native clusters and 1 native ROP partition. Sold at ~$99. Finally replaces G73's 80nm shrink. G72's 65nm shrink will already have been released for some time, and will remain in heavy production for the ultra-low-end SKUs.

September->December 2007
G90:
65nm, Q4 2007; 400mm2+
1.4-1.6GHz GDDR4, 384-bit Bus
1.45-1.75GHz Shader Core Clock
6 ROP partitions, but beefier
625-675MHz Core Clock
FP64 Support (Slow!)
32 MADDs/Cluster
24 Interps/Cluster
10 Clusters

Q1->Q2 2008
G91: 7(?) native clusters, 65nm
G92: 4(?) native clusters, 65nm

Q2->Q3 2008
G9I/A: 2(?) native clusters IGPs, 55nm(?) (competes with Fusion?)
G93: 3(?) native clusters, 55nm(?); replaces G85

Q4 2008
G94: 7(?) native clusters, 55nm(?)
G95: 12(?) native clusters, 55nm(?); 9900-Series
G96: 4(?) native clusters, 45nm(?); G93 moves into the ultra-low-end

Q2 2009
G100: ...

BTW, in terms of Quad-SLI, I think you're much more likely to see those with G82 and G91 than with G81 or G90. That's still a hefty performance gain, and would be much more reasonable in terms of power consumption.


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Aquele G82 parece interessante.Embora me pareça que ele ja esta a fazer umas previsões um pouco alargadas

A ideia é mesmo essa.
Ter um ponto de partida para depois poder "refinar" a informação até se chegar ao que é mais plausível, e comparar com o que for saíndo nos próximos meses.
O importante nem é tanto o breakdown dos vários nomes de código, mas sim a timeline de saída.
 
A meu ver, isso já tem especulação a mais. Não quero dizer que não seja verdade, mas ainda há demasiadas indefinições nas informações para as considerarmos como certas
 
Bem.. a do G81 é fácil de prever quando irá aconteçer e porquê irá acontecer..

As restantes também.. Gráficas mid-range e low-range até ao Verão de 2007.. tudo normal.. até aí tudo bem..depois no campo da G90... já é muito difícil prever seja o que for.. e até ali tem quase nada de info..
 

NVDA: NVIDIA: Demand for Nvidia G80 chips weak as market expects G84 and G86
lineup - Digitimes (26.32)


Digitimes reports Nvidia's launch of its DirectX 10-compliant GeForce 8800 GPU
(codenamed G80) earlier this month seems to have failed to significantly stir
up demand for high-end graphics cards, although the new chips took a lead in
3D computing processing, according to sources at Taiwan-based graphics card
makers. Since the G80 is preliminarily targeting the high-end sector, the
sources pointed out that Nvidia's forthcoming G84 and G86 GPUs for the
entry-level and mid-range segments are likely to play a key role in the GPU
market, with the two new GPUs expected to debut in the first quarter of 2007.


In other news---

Stull, Stull & Brody Announces Commencement of Lawsuit
against NVIDIA Corporation for the Back-Dating of Stock
Option Grants -- NVDA

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G80 overclockada até 917 mhz core!!

Fonte: http://www.nordichardware.com/news,5097.html

Kinc pushes GeForce 8800 GTX over 900MHz GPU!
Written by Andreas G 19 November 2006 20:03

As you know we have NVIDIA's new monster GeForce 8800 GTX in our test lab and as we've already shown you in our overclocking preview the card has proven to be a really good enthusiast card, despite all vicious rumors and the large amount of transistors which many thought would make it hard to handle. Kinc has shown that the card overclocks well and now even that it overclocks really well. As the first person he has managed to push the card over 900MHz GPU, from 575MHz at stock, while the memory was running at 1240MHz up from 900MHz. That GDDR3 would be an disadvantage has proven to be somewhat of an overstatement.

With a "really sucky 6800 on air" he has still managed to reach some really nice results. This is just the start of things though and more are to be expected, not the least during DreamHack at the end of the month. 52,306 points in 3DMark 03 and an fps at 920 in the nature test from 3DMark 2001. The reason for this was a core running at 917MHz, with memories at 1221MHz. 100,000 isn't feeling that far off now.
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Specifications
Core 2 Extreme X6800, air-cooled
ASUS P5W64 Professional
Corsair Dominator PC8888, 3-3-2-4
XFX GeForce 8800GTX 1.65Vcore/2.15Vdimm @ -75°C load cascade
Cooltek 600W

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esperemos k sejam mais pequenas :D


se essas datas e essas specs estiverem correctas ker dizer k entre fevereiro/ março vao sair as novas Nvidia e talvez ja sejam de 80nm .

se tb sairem mais modelos topo gama , agora akele pessoal k comprou as G80 e nao sao dakeles k se podem dar ao luxo de trocar de VGA de 3 em 3 meses (tambem nao devem ser mtos) agora devem ficar la mto contentes

, mas as noticias oficiais tb so falam de dois novos GPUs (G84 e G86) e nao sao high end por isso em principio nao ha problema para o pessoal k comprou as 8800
G84 and G86 GPUs for the entry-level and mid-range segments



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Exact specifications Depende on R600 specification


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a noticia ja corre mundo



NVIDIA to release midrange/low end DX10 parts in Q1 2007

A week a go, we reported that NVIDIA was supporting 5 new graphics cards in beta driver version 96.94. According to a digitimes report, these are going to eventually become the G84 and G86 GPUs. The two new graphics cores will be sampled in January 2007, and should be shipped February 2007.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/11/20/nvidia_readies_g84_g86/
 
isso e por o carro a frente dos bois, (G9x), mas siga...

Quero ver é os nomes e a AMD/ATI, Geforce 9800 pro? :D

Das G8x era de esperar... A G81 um shirink, pena que a 80 nm e não 65... Logo não deve esperar grande queda nos consumos...

As outras o normal mid/low end e versões para portáteis.

é caso para dizer, venham carago :D Bem como as R6xx TODAS
 
Pelo menos o Jen-Hsun já deixou acidentalmente "escapar" detalhes sobre o Integrated Graphics Processor (IGP) para Intel e AMD numa entrevista recente:


Será single-chip (mesmo na versão Intel :D), DX10 nativo e fabricado a 65nm. :)
Data prevista de lançamento: início de Fevereiro.

O objectivo é dominar as vendas de IGP's mais "high-end", para desktops e notebooks com CPU's Intel e AMD.
 
Single Chip mesmo em Intel ?? Hum...



:D

edit, oops no caso da AMD a memoria devia ligar ao cpu :D
 
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