Geforce Fx 5900 Review
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_PrEdAt0r_
Power Member
hmmm... eu ca para mim n gostava de ja começar a mandar grandes pulos e a lançar foguetes, k inda vem outra decepção (a meu ver) tal e kual a fx k keima com o screen saver...
mas n deixo de dizer k pelos resultados (e k grandes resultados
) n fike bastante impressionado e com vontade de ter aki uma ao meu lado 
agora no verao kero ver as duas empresas a deitarem fumo
pa ver kem ganha
[]'z
btw... os resultados com FSAA taum brutalicos... pensei k perdesse mais performance
mas n deixo de dizer k pelos resultados (e k grandes resultados
) n fike bastante impressionado e com vontade de ter aki uma ao meu lado agora no verao kero ver as duas empresas a deitarem fumo
pa ver kem ganha []'z
btw... os resultados com FSAA taum brutalicos... pensei k perdesse mais performance
ptzs
Power Member
O JC pelo que tenho visto só tem cortado na Nvidia, e bem, mas se voçês fazem o filme ao contrário tudo bem.
A nv35 faz tao boa figura no doom3 pela razão já enunciada pelo Nemesis11. Só para explicar melhor, a r9700pro fazia o rendering das textures numa passagem, a nv30 precisava de duas, logo levou cascanço.
As drivers da ATi decerto vao resolver esse problema.
A nv35 faz tao boa figura no doom3 pela razão já enunciada pelo Nemesis11. Só para explicar melhor, a r9700pro fazia o rendering das textures numa passagem, a nv30 precisava de duas, logo levou cascanço.
As drivers da ATi decerto vao resolver esse problema.
iJFerreira
Banido
Raptor,
"Espero que corra bem aqui na R9700Pro porque estou mesmo sem vontade nenhuma de fazer upgrade à gráfica!"
LOL! Sim, sim! Desde que saiu a FX5900 que
andas sem vontade de fazer upgrade não?
Não sabes é o que escolher.
"Espero que corra bem aqui na R9700Pro porque estou mesmo sem vontade nenhuma de fazer upgrade à gráfica!"
LOL! Sim, sim! Desde que saiu a FX5900 que
andas sem vontade de fazer upgrade não?
Não sabes é o que escolher.
s3ntry
Power Member
Essa dos preços descerem ainda tou para ver!
Desde que esta brincadeira da concorrência começou que cada geração de placas gráficas é mais cara que a geração anterior. No tempo da TNT2, a topo de gama era a TNT2 Ultra e custava praí uns 40 contos. Esta era a placa mais poderosa existente na altura, e a NVIDIA pouca concorrência tinha, a 3Dfx tava a morrer e nada mais chegava perto.
Se formos a ver neste momento, a concorrência tá apertada mas as topo de gama agora custam mais de 100 contos!
Se bem que na teoria deveria ser assim, na prática não estou bem a ver como é que a concorrência tá a fazer os preços baixarem. :die:
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Strakata
Portugal@Home Member
Não devia ser "sa F**a a Gainward"? Ou as estás a comparar esses 900€ com Radeons 256MB Watercooled? (que não existem).
PS: És biased à força toda, tem cuidado quando começares a fazer reviews de placas gráficas / motherboards. Tás a ver o que dizes do [H]ardOCP? E ao Kyle & Cª não há grandes razões para chamar biased, já a ti com a ATI/anti-Abit.... minha nossa senhora
Raptor
OC Legend
tenho a minha opinião pessoal, mas quando se trata de recomendar às pessoas, e demonstrar o que vale cada coisa, ignoro sempre a minha opinião pessoal.
Isso vai-se ver quando tiver finalmente uma Abit IC7, se gostar dela, até troco a minha asus P4C800... simplesmente a nível pessoal, pá, é outra historia, e tenho as minhas razões!
realmente isso dos 900€ era mais f**a a Gainward!
tienes razon!
Isso vai-se ver quando tiver finalmente uma Abit IC7, se gostar dela, até troco a minha asus P4C800... simplesmente a nível pessoal, pá, é outra historia, e tenho as minhas razões!
realmente isso dos 900€ era mais f**a a Gainward!
tienes razon! 
Crusher
Power Member
Originally posted by estigma
Estas guerras é que é fixe... descem os preços e aumenta a qualidade.
http://www.overclockers.com/tips00370/
ToTTenTranz
Power Member
Pra dar relevo ao último post do crusher:
"Pedopecuniaphiles"
Ed Stroligo - 5/12/03
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What the hell does that mean?
Pedophile comes from Latin. It means "child lover."
Pedopecuniaphile just adds another Latin word. "Pecunia" means money in Latin.
So a pedopecuniaphile mean "child money lover." Since that's a bit of a tongue-twister, let's shorten it to PPPs.
There are many, many PPPers out there. They tend to congregate wherever there is marketing and advertising for young people.
They prey on the emotional vulnerabilities of young people to fit in and feel important to sell their products.
I just can't shake the feeling I'm in the midst of PPPs when I see the latest marketing onslaught for video cards.
Frankly, it strikes me pretty often as being spam on a webpage.
Making You Spend More
Just to get this out of the way, 256Mb of video memory appears to do next to nothing on current games or even Doom III, so I wouldn't get too wound up about that.
The FX 5900 Ultra looks fine, and probably will beat out the Radeon 9800 in most things, but it's going to be a $425+ card. The FX 5900 will be a $325+ card.
I don't much care about the pricing of these cards, but what's important is what's happening below these levels.
If you look at the varying benchmarks, the cheapest card that stays in the ballpark is the Radeon 9700 Pro. That's a $270 card these days. Maybe an overclocked Radeon 9700 Plain would still be good enough. That's still over $200.
Eventually, we'll see an NV35 "value" card. "Value" nowadays seems to cost about $250.
Get below $200, and the benchmark numbers go to hell. Spend $160 on a video card today, and you're in the minor leagues.
A year ago, a good, reasonably competitive against the top-end video card cost about $150. Now a good, reasonable competitive video card costs about $250.
Then we get advance Doom III benchmarks, and guess what? You want to play Doom III decently, it looks like you'd better be ready to shell out about $250.
That's a 67% effective price rise in one year, and barely anyone reviewing these cards notices. I guess they're too busy selling product. Just whose side are they on, anyway?
Just who is going to be playing Doom III, anyway? People in nursing homes? No, it's going to be people on the other end of the age bell curve; people more susceptible to emotion and ego instant gratification and less susceptible to memory and math and patience.
Pedopecuniaphiles, indeed.
The Change
If I thought that Radeon 9700 Pros would cost $150 six months from now, I don't write this. That's the problem. The strategy has changed for both video card companies. The prices on the high-end cards no longer drop like they used to into the medium level.
The medium-priced cards are no longer junior versions of the top dogs. Instead, they are top dogs of the minor leagues, and it looks like two very separate categories. Like PIVs and Celerons.
And that's very bad news for us.
Wait Them Out
The purpose of the Doom III preview benchmarks is clear: Buy an expensive video card now (maybe with your income tax refund check if you're in the U.S.) and be ready for Doom III.
Don't do it. Wait them out. Show that you're not a puppet to be played with on a PPPer string.
Doom III will be out in six months? Wait six months and see what the situation is then. If you're still faced with a $250 entry fee to play Doom III, don't buy Doom III.
It's not their money; it's your money. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, then put it in somebody else's pocket, like a bank's. It won't go bad there.
You can defeat all the marketing schemes and conspiracies in the world with just one word: No.
No. Just say no. Not only is it good for your wallet, it's good for your soul. No video card will ever make you a better person.
It's a powerful weapon. Use it.
Isto é TÃO verdade...
"Pedopecuniaphiles"
Ed Stroligo - 5/12/03
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What the hell does that mean?
Pedophile comes from Latin. It means "child lover."
Pedopecuniaphile just adds another Latin word. "Pecunia" means money in Latin.
So a pedopecuniaphile mean "child money lover." Since that's a bit of a tongue-twister, let's shorten it to PPPs.
There are many, many PPPers out there. They tend to congregate wherever there is marketing and advertising for young people.
They prey on the emotional vulnerabilities of young people to fit in and feel important to sell their products.
I just can't shake the feeling I'm in the midst of PPPs when I see the latest marketing onslaught for video cards.
Frankly, it strikes me pretty often as being spam on a webpage.
Making You Spend More
Just to get this out of the way, 256Mb of video memory appears to do next to nothing on current games or even Doom III, so I wouldn't get too wound up about that.
The FX 5900 Ultra looks fine, and probably will beat out the Radeon 9800 in most things, but it's going to be a $425+ card. The FX 5900 will be a $325+ card.
I don't much care about the pricing of these cards, but what's important is what's happening below these levels.
If you look at the varying benchmarks, the cheapest card that stays in the ballpark is the Radeon 9700 Pro. That's a $270 card these days. Maybe an overclocked Radeon 9700 Plain would still be good enough. That's still over $200.
Eventually, we'll see an NV35 "value" card. "Value" nowadays seems to cost about $250.
Get below $200, and the benchmark numbers go to hell. Spend $160 on a video card today, and you're in the minor leagues.
A year ago, a good, reasonably competitive against the top-end video card cost about $150. Now a good, reasonable competitive video card costs about $250.
Then we get advance Doom III benchmarks, and guess what? You want to play Doom III decently, it looks like you'd better be ready to shell out about $250.
That's a 67% effective price rise in one year, and barely anyone reviewing these cards notices. I guess they're too busy selling product. Just whose side are they on, anyway?
Just who is going to be playing Doom III, anyway? People in nursing homes? No, it's going to be people on the other end of the age bell curve; people more susceptible to emotion and ego instant gratification and less susceptible to memory and math and patience.
Pedopecuniaphiles, indeed.
The Change
If I thought that Radeon 9700 Pros would cost $150 six months from now, I don't write this. That's the problem. The strategy has changed for both video card companies. The prices on the high-end cards no longer drop like they used to into the medium level.
The medium-priced cards are no longer junior versions of the top dogs. Instead, they are top dogs of the minor leagues, and it looks like two very separate categories. Like PIVs and Celerons.
And that's very bad news for us.
Wait Them Out
The purpose of the Doom III preview benchmarks is clear: Buy an expensive video card now (maybe with your income tax refund check if you're in the U.S.) and be ready for Doom III.
Don't do it. Wait them out. Show that you're not a puppet to be played with on a PPPer string.
Doom III will be out in six months? Wait six months and see what the situation is then. If you're still faced with a $250 entry fee to play Doom III, don't buy Doom III.
It's not their money; it's your money. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, then put it in somebody else's pocket, like a bank's. It won't go bad there.
You can defeat all the marketing schemes and conspiracies in the world with just one word: No.
No. Just say no. Not only is it good for your wallet, it's good for your soul. No video card will ever make you a better person.
It's a powerful weapon. Use it.
Isto é TÃO verdade...