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http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1642295820090316

Intel says AMD breached patent licensing pact


Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:54pm EDT

(Adds Intel comment, complaint details and background)


NEW YORK, March 16 (Reuters) - Intel Corp (INTC.O) accused Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD.N) of breaching the terms of a cross-licensing agreement between the two rival chip makers, a charge that AMD denied on Monday.

Intel alleged its rival ran afoul of a 2001 patent agreement when it created the Globalfoundries joint venture, the $4.3 billion semiconductor manufacturer spun off from AMD.

In a statement, Intel said it "believes that Global Foundries is not a subsidiary under terms of the agreement and is therefore not licensed under the 2001 patent cross-license agreement."

Intel is threatening to terminate AMD's rights in 60 days if the alleged breach is not corrected, according to the filing.

AMD, in a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, said it has not breached the agreement and insisted that Intel has no right to terminate rights and licenses covered by the pact.

Despite their standing agreement to share intellectual property, Intel and AMD have butted heads in court for many years.

One lawsuit filed in 2005 in which AMD accused Intel of giving computer makers illegal discounts and retaliating against manufacturers who used AMD chips has been delayed until 2010.

The Globalfoundries spinoff, which closed last week, leaves AMD, a distant rival to Intel in microprocessors, as a "fab-lite" chip company, focused on design rather than production.

The plants that make AMD's chips are now part of the new company, a joint venture with Advanced Technology Investment Co (ATIC), an Abu Dhabi state-owned venture capital firm.

But that partnership between AMD and ATIC breaches a confidential portion of the cross-licensing pact, Intel said.

"AMD cannot unilaterally extend Intel's licensing rights to a third party without Intel's consent," said Bruce Sewell, Intel's general counsel, who added that the company is "willing to find a resolution."

In addition, AMD asserts that Intel breached the agreement by its "purported attempt to terminate (AMD's) rights and licenses under the Cross License." That move gives AMD the right to terminate Intel's rights and licenses.

Intel said it will attempt to resolve the dispute through mediation. (Reporting by Franklin Paul; Editing by Derek Caney and Brian Moss)

© Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved
 
Estava mesmo a acabar de ler isso.

So far, AMD doesn’t seem particularly fazed by Intel’s notification. In response, the company stated that “Intel’s action is an attempt to distract the world from the global antitrust scrutiny it faces.” AMD also added that “should this matter proceed to litigation, we will prove that Intel fabricated this claim to interfere with our commercial relationships and thus has violated the cross-license.” Fonte
 
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Apesar de perceber bem inglês nunca consigo interpretar alguns pontos dos artigos que o pessoal mete. Peço-vos que comecem a traduzir este género de noticias pois há pessoal que não percebe muito de inglês e que pode ter interesse, e consequentemente fica limitado por não ter como entender os artigos ...

Cumps :)

http://translate.google.com/

Está longe de ser uma solução perfeita, mas pode ajudar. :)

Quanto à notícia, é díficil comentar sem saber o que está naquele acordo efectuado em 2001, entre as duas partes.
 
Quando é que a AMD se vira para PPC?
Comprava já!

Anyway, isto não vai dar em nada senão processos e mais processos.
Aliás, se a Intel retirar a licença x86 à AMD não se sujeita a processos por ficar com o monopólio dos chips x86? ( Tudo bem, existe a Via mas essa...)
 
Basicamente guerrinha da Intel, pelo que parece com razão se realmente a licença cobre a tal situação da AMD, mas que parece que com isso também a Intel quebra a licença LoL.... ou seja, uma delas paga um x à outra (provavelmente a AMD) e vão felizes para casa! É só birra!
 
Será que este movimento da Intel veio depois desta notícia?
Algum medo por parte da Intel de serem aplicadas certas tecnologias ou processos no fabrico de algo concorrente, talvez.

Global Foundries open to making Chips for ARM

ccording Jon Carvill, Head of Communications at Global Foundries, the new company will be willing to make chips for everyone including nVidia and ARM. At least that is what he told Sylvie Barak at the Inq.

Carvill also feels this will help fabless firms to overcome the tight grip that TSMC has on the market. Global Foundries is looking to move to 32nm as quickly as possible to get ahead of TSMC and makes the claim that they are better at “serving the needs of multiple customers”
Fonte
Penso que o que está em causa será isto:


The agreement covered royalty payments by AMD in regards to aspects of the x86 instruction set used in CPUs, as well as foundry and production rights.
Fonte

Judging by the wording of that sentence, it seems like AMD thinks it's entitled to take away Intel's x86-64 license while continuing to make x86 processors. Intel currently uses AMD's x86-64 technology in all shipping Pentium and Core processors, while AMD, naturally, uses Intel's x86 tech in all of its PC processors. Fonte
 
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Quando é que a AMD se vira para PPC?
Comprava já!

Anyway, isto não vai dar em nada senão processos e mais processos.
Aliás, se a Intel retirar a licença x86 à AMD não se sujeita a processos por ficar com o monopólio dos chips x86? ( Tudo bem, existe a Via mas essa...)

Quando a Microsoft lançar o Windows em PPC :) até lá, fazer CPUs para minorias não vale a pena.
 
Intel Could Shut Down AMD's CPU Production Completely in Two Months

Intel Corporation has sent notice to its chief competitor Advanced Micro Devices that it believes AMD has breached a patent cross-licensing agreement that the two reached in 2001. The agreement covered royalty payments by AMD in regards to aspects of the x86 instruction set used in CPUs, as well as foundry and production rights.
AMD recently spun off its Fabs in a multi-billion dollar deal involving Advanced Technology Investment Company (ATIC) and Mubadala Development, both solely owned by the Emirate of Abu Dhabi. The deal funnelled badly needed cash and debt relief into AMD, which has been struggling for several years to compete against Intel's CPUs. It also led to the creation of GlobalFoundries, an integrated circuit foundry which will compete against the likes of TSMC and Chartered Semiconductor for business. AMD would continue to be GlobalFoundries' primary customer.
However, Intel believes that GlobalFoundries is not a subsidiary under the terms of the agreement, and is therefore not licensed to produce CPUs that use key technologies licensed under the 2001 patent cross-license agreement.
Intel also said that the structure of the deal between AMD and ATIC breaches a confidential portion of that agreement, and it has asked AMD to make the relevant portion of the agreement public, but so far AMD has declined to do so. AMD's breach could result in the loss of licenses and rights granted to AMD by Intel under the agreement.
If GlobalFoundries is not recognized as a subsidary of AMD, it will have to negotiate with Intel to secure patents that would allow it to continue to produce AMD's CPUs at its Fabs in Dresden. Intel has the option of securing a court injunction to halt production until the dispute is settled. Negotiation of a patent licensing agreement could take months, if not years.

"Intellectual property is a cornerstone of Intel's technology leadership and for more than 30 years, the company has believed in the strategic importance of licensing intellectual property in exchange for fair value. However AMD cannot unilaterally extend Intel's licensing rights to a third party without Intel's consent," said Bruce Sewell, senior vice president and general counsel for Intel.

"We have attempted to address our concerns with AMD without success since October. We are willing to find a resolution but at the same time we have an obligation to our stockholders to protect the billions of dollars we've invested in intellectual property".
In a filling with the Securities and Exchange Commission, AMD stated Intel "purports to terminate the Company's rights and licenses under the Cross License in 60 days if the alleged breach has not been corrected".
Intel claims that in response to the material breach notification it sent out, AMD claimed Intel breached the agreement by notifying AMD of its breach.
AMD defended itself, with Harry Wolin, AMD's Senior Vice President and General Counsel, stating that Intel's unilateral "purported attempt to terminate the Company’s rights and licenses under the Cross License itself constitutes a material breach of the Cross License by Intel".

Under the terms of the license agreement, the notification to AMD means the two parties will attempt to resolve the dispute through third party mediation.
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EDIT: A Intel não está a fazer jogo sujo... quer queiramos quer não pode haver uma fuga ao contrato por parte da AMD... Não se sabe o que está escrito no contrato de 2001 assinado pelas duas partes... Para a Intel agir é porque acha que pode ganhar a causa... vamos esperar e ver
 
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O problema pode estar aqui, caso esta confusão esteja mesmo directamente relacionada com a licença x86 que foi "dada" à AMD pela Intel.

A AMD forneceu à Intel uma licença x86-64 e a Intel forneceu à AMD a licença x86, caso hajam problemas poderá haver um retirar a cada uma as licenças dadas. Não sei se os termos "fornecer" estão correctos, mas foi o que pude entender de tanta noticia e da Wikipédia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
 
O problema pode estar aqui, caso esta confusão esteja mesmo directamente relacionada com a licença x86 que foi "dada" à AMD pela Intel.

A AMD forneceu à Intel uma licença x86-64 e a Intel forneceu à AMD a licença x86, caso hajam problemas poderá haver um retirar a cada uma as licenças dadas. Não sei se os termos "fornecer" estão correctos, mas foi o que pude entender de tanta noticia e da Wikipédia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

de acordo com o teu link , nao tou a ver a intel a tirar os i7 do mercado , se eheeh ambas as empresas acabarem com o acordo ;) ja que a intel perde o x86-64 e segundo o link os prescott foram os ultimos a ter intrucoes x86 , o que veio a seguir e x86-64
 
A Intel é proprietária da licença x86, a AMD da x86-64... vejam lá no que dá isto. Se a Intel revogar a licença x86 à AMD, a AMD ainda tem a licença x86-64, mas como tem instruções x86, a AMD não a poderia usar, e assim a Intel ficaria obrigada a usar processadores x86, porque a x86-64 é da AMD.

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Tecnicamente não estão a quebrar nenhuma lei, porque a Foundry Company só faz os seus CPUs, agora se os desenhasse ai estariam a infrigir o contrato da licença.
 
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de acordo com o teu link , nao tou a ver a intel a tirar os i7 do mercado , se eheeh ambas as empresas acabarem com o acordo ;) ja que a intel perde o x86-64 e segundo o link os prescott foram os ultimos a ter intrucoes x86 , o que veio a seguir e x86-64

Os C2D, Pentium Dual etc, possuem instruções x86 e x86-64, se tal coisa acontecesse estavam/os mal, já que quem é a detentora da licença x86-64 é a AMD.
 
Ao que parece, a Intel tem razão, mas não vejo em que é que vai dar.. A AMD pensa que está no direito de tirar a licença à Intel dos x86-64, mas quer continuar a produzir os x86... Não faz sentido..
 
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