Intel Samples 45nm “Penryn” Microprocessors.

Welcome Back Hyper-Threading!

More "Penryn" details emerge

Despite the plethora of attention Penryn received over the last few weeks, Intel's newest roadmaps put the processor launch for Q1'08. This indicates the launch has not necessarily accelerated even though the initial tape-out proved extremely successful.

On the other hand, Intel's 2008 roadmap shows every segment simultaneously deploying 45nm products. Like AMD's recent 65nm Brisbane launch, Intel guidance notes the processors will start shipping Q4'07 but the actual launch will come as a coordinated 2008 event.

The first Intel 45nm treatments will come from the quad-core Yorkfield and dual-core Wolfdale desktop processors. Wolfdale has two physical cores on a single die and up to 6MB of L2 cache. Yorkfield is then two Wolfdale dice on a single package. Also worth noting: Wolfdale ships with a 1333MHz front-side bus and Yorkfield ships with a 1066MHz front-side bus. Chipset support will largely come from Bearlake-family that was previously disclosed on DailyTech.

Perhaps the most interesting thing about these two processors is the return of Hyper-Threading. This, however, does not mean that Yorkfield will appear as eight logical cores, nor does it mean Wolfdale will appear as four logical cores. Intel's internal guidance on the subject specifically claims the processor will ship with Hyper-Threading, but will only utilize 4 threads. On every Intel roadmap in the past, Hyper-Threading doubles the amount of listed threads in the guidance documentation. Clearly, there is more of a mystery here still.

"The official company policy is that our engineers have left the door open for Hyper-Threading, but we cannot confirm or deny any future plans for the technology," adds Intel Public Relations Manager Dan Snyder.

All Penryn cores also include Intel TXT, previously known as Intel LaGrande Technology. TXT stands for Trusted Execution Technology and refers to the collection of devices. The Trusted Platform Module, or TPM, is one component. DMA page protection is another.

Alas, even if 2008 seems like a long time away for the 45nm platform, it's important to note that all Intel platforms will have 45nm SKUs in Q1'08. Penryn, the family name for Intel's first generation 45nm consumer CPUs, also refers specifically to the 45nm dual-core mobile CPU. Intel's current roadmap claims this processor will lead the Q1'08 mobile push with several low voltage models coming one quarter later.

For servers, Wolfdale will make an appearance as a dual and single socket Xeon. It's been long-standing Intel policy to separate desktop, mobile and server chipsets into different products; Conroe was the Core 2 desktop CPU and Woodcrest, though physically nearly identical, was the Xeon counterpart. Wolfdale as a server and a desktop CPU indicates the chips are electrically identical -- though each will likely receive different packaging for the different sockets.

Yorkfield will not receive the same codenaming treatment as Wolfdale on the server. Instead, Harpertown will be the quad-core Xeon for two socket servers. Yorkfield will still be the company’s single-socket quad-core Xeon offering.

http://www.dailytech.com/Welcome+Back+HyperThreading/article5921.htm
 
Penryn does not have HT

Multiple wrong sources


By Charlie Demerjian: Wednesday 31 January 2007, 07:42
DESPITE MULTIPLE documents saying it has HT, our earlier story is wrong.

Penryn does not have HT, nor will it ever. That banner is left up to Nehalem in late 2008.

More than enough engineers, Lenovo sales people in outer Mongolia and the usual rabble picketing my house all confirm that it is not there.

Sorry for the confusion. µ
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37316
 
LOLOL!!... Bela fonte... Entre essa fonte (e a forma como é justificada) e os "boatos"... Para já dou mais crédito aos "boatos".
Se reparares o Anandtech também atenta a isso:
This, however, does not mean that Yorkfield will appear as eight logical cores, nor does it mean Wolfdale will appear as four logical cores. Intel's internal guidance on the subject specifically claims the processor will ship with Hyper-Threading, but will only utilize 4 threads. On every Intel roadmap in the past, Hyper-Threading doubles the amount of listed threads in the guidance documentation. Clearly, there is more of a mystery here still.

News:
Penryn, Wolfdale and Yorkfield all 45 nanos delayed to Q1 08

Desktop Roadmap Q4’07 shipments for Q1’08 launch
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37334

Penrin adiado para 2008. Afinal ja nao vai duplicar o número de treads como acontecia com os outros Hyper-treading dos Pentium..... Qualquer dia sao os clocks que baixam e o K8L começa a parecer melhorzinho e cada vez mais um serio competidor mesmo para os Penrin da Intel ;)
 
No Intel 45nm CPUs For DP Server Until 2008

Intel will position its 65nm-based Dual-Core Xeon 5100 sequence (Woodcrest) and Quad-Core Xeon 5300 sequence (Clovertown) series processors as the main force in the 2-way server market in 2007, and will not begin introducing its 45nm-based quad-core (Harpertown) and dual-core (Wolfdale) processors until 2008. However, the delay in switching to new processors isn't just a welcome break for server vendors. If AMD is able to launch its planned Rev. H processors within the second half of this year, it could give the company a better position in its server war with Intel.


http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4564


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Seems odd, HT-enabled but with the same number of threads? Clearly this is not the HT we knew from netburst... At any rate, looks like DailyTech's earlier story was right, as were the INQ before they changed their minds. >_>
 
Dass... esta cena assim n dáaaa! agora k tava decidido a comprar um c2d vão lançar outro processador? ando eu aki a tentar fzr 1 pc novo desde que saiu o pentium D830 e dps veio o D930, agr xegaram os c2d e ja me tao a falar k vai sair otro? to a ver k é melhor fikar-me pelo belo do MMX :004: :004: :x2:
 
Intel Nehalem Server Platforms Revealed

Intel Stoutland is slated to have a CPU integrated memory controller and 4S glueless sockets using third party XNC and a fully connected CSI. This will provide 6.4GT/s or 4.8GT/s, an astonishing 72 second generation PCIe lanes and 4 first gen PCIe lanes on an unused ESI port as well as six first generation ICH9 lanes. Legacy support will be added through ICH9. The CPU integrated memory controller will include 4+1 FB-DIMM I and FB-DIMM2 channels, with the latter clocking 800/1066 and providing 32-64 DIMM support per system. The Beckton CPUs rovide four CSI per socket. Intel is projecting this interesting technology in the second half of 2009 along with the Thurley "platform", which also has an integrated memory controller and uses the Gainestown four core, eight threads CPU. The Thurley "platform" is aimed at release in the second half of 2008.

http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4573


No HT For Penryn & Nehalem

Intel issued out their latest WW04 roadmaps to their partnerswith some incorrect info and that leads to mass confusion that Penryn supports HT. Someone has unknowingly put a tick to Yorkfield and Wolfdale at the Hyper-Threading column but the number of core/threads still remains at 4/4 and 2/2 respectively. Anyway, the air is cleared and the finalized roadmap is correctly reflected that Penryn will not support HT neither do Nehalem. Intel will use a new term called MTT for Nehalem and Nehalem-C. Take a guess what it means and tell us your answers here >> http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p=3208396


http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=4574

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LOLOL!!... Bela fonte... Entre essa fonte (e a forma como é justificada) e os "boatos"... Para já dou mais crédito aos "boatos".

Afinal a fonte até é boa ;)

No HT For Penryn & Nehalem

Intel issued out their latest WW04 roadmaps to their partnerswith some incorrect info and that leads to mass confusion that Penryn supports HT. Someone has unknowingly put a tick to Yorkfield and Wolfdale at the Hyper-Threading column but the number of core/threads still remains at 4/4 and 2/2 respectively. Anyway, the air is cleared and the finalized roadmap is correctly reflected that Penryn will not support HT neither do Nehalem. Intel will use a new term called MTT for Nehalem and Nehalem-C. Take a guess what it means and tell us your answers here >> http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?p=3208396
 
Intel's 45 nm Quad core comes in Q4

Roadmap: Harpertown for servers



Harpertown Quad Core a server CPU that is suppose to replace some of the Quad core Xeon 5300 series CPUs, comes in Q4 2007. Intel is pushing hard to have these small transistor CPU's out this year.


The desktop parts are still scheduled for Q1 2008 but at least one server part will go out. Harpertown will be the top of the Performance roadmap and will share its place with Xeon 5160, 5150, 5140 and 5130 at Volume Dual processor market. It will even drop to value market and co-exist in late Q4 with 5120 and 5110 CPUs.


Yorkfield Quad core are still scheduled for Q1 2008. The only details we know about Harpertown and all Intel wants you to know about this CPU, is that it supports four cores and four threads and that is 45 nanometre based.

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Bem se há coisa que a intel tirou da Netburstice foi a capacidade para rapidamente subir clocks e mudar processos de fabrico.

Agora que tem um design vencedor em IPC torna-se uma combinação absolutamente demolidora.

Tb agora não tem hipoteses pois qdo menor for a tecnologia de fabrico menores vão ser as frequências de relógio, devemos tar quase a ficar nos minimos.
Por exemplo aqui há uns tempos (anos 70) o senhor Moore disse que o número de transistores ia duplicar a cada 1.5 anos, coisa que se deixou de verificar qdo a tecnologia foi para os .35um. Se assim fosse em 2020 teriamos uma tecnologia de fabrico de 0.01micron.
Mas a tecnologia muda muito, vai na volta e até chegamos a essa fase :)
 
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