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https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/7797-intel-q3-2018-jibber-jabber.htmlAnd the Murthy 10nm Jibber Jabber in the Q&A:
Venkata S. M. Renduchintala - Intel Corp.
Hey, Vivek, let me take it. This is Murthy. First of all, as Bob said in his opening remarks, the progress we've made in the quarter is very much in line with our expectations. While we can't give any specific numbers, I do believe that the yields as we speak now are tracking roughly in line with what we experienced in 14-nanometer.
So we're still very much reinforcing and reaffirming our previous guidance that we believe that we'll have 10-nanometer shipping by holiday of 2019. And if anything, I feel more confident about that at this call than I did on the call a quarter ago. So we're making good progress and I think we're making the quarter-on-quarter progress that's consistent with prior generations having reset the progress curve.
“While we can’t give any specific numbers”? Sure you CAN but you just won’t. Are they that embarrassing? How about a little transparency? And you wonder why the fake news about 10nm getting cancelled got traction? Murthy, since you were not at Intel during the 14nm yield ramp let me remind you that it was disastrous. So where exactly are 10nm yields in relation to 14nm?
Intel to outsource entry-level processor, chipset production
As its processor supply continues to fall short of demand, Intel reportedly has begun planning to outsource production for its entry-level Atom processors and some of its chipsets while keeping its high-margin Xeon and Core CPU production in-house, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.
Among the available foundry houses, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) is the only one capable of handling such rush orders, the sources noted.
However, Intel declined to comment on "market rumors."
Intel's CPU shortages grew worse in the second half of 2018 and the problem has gradually expanded from the traditional PC market to the industrial PC sector with Intel's high-end server CPUs also reportedly experiencing tight supply, the sources stated.
To ease the shortages, Intel earlier in October announced that it will invest an additional US$1 billion in 2018 expanding its 14nm manufacturing sites. The budget is expected to be spent mainly on the production of its Xeon and Core processors for servers and premium PCs with higher margins, the sources noted.
For demand from entry-level PCs and Internet of Things (IoT) devices, Intel is planning to outsource its entry-level Atom processors and 14nm chipsets to outside makers and expects the shortages to be resolved by the first quarter of 2019, the sources said.
The sources pointed out that Intel and TSMC have been in talks about outsourcing production for the chip giant's CPU and chipset since mid-2018.
Intel had worked with the Taiwan-based foundry house including having TSMC manufacture SoCs using Atom as the basic architecture in 2009 and the production of Intel's SoFIA handset SoC in 2013. Currently, TSMC is the manufacturer of Intel's FPGA series products.
Despite the CPU shortages, Intel still performed strongly in the third quarter with revenues rising 19% on year to reach US$19.2 billion and net profits growing 42% on year to arrive at US$6.4 billion.
Deduzo é que sejam os tais chips da Spreadtrum, que já foram lá fabricados a 28nm e eram agora fabricados a 14nm.
Variants
The standard cell definitions for Intel’s 10-nanometer are very important since they serve as the foundational building blocks for most of their designs.
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For their 10-nanometer, at the one extreme, Intel standard cells span all the way to IoT and low-power mobile applications which have relatively lower performance but are more optimized for power and density. On the other end of the spectrum are Intel’s ultra-high performance CPU designs which sacrifice power/area for very high performance. Those 10nm cells target frequencies greater than 5 GHz under 100% usage conditions. In between the two are high-performance mobile as well as high-performance graphics products which require a more balanced PPA.
The one landmine we haven’t mentioned in this article is yield. Given that 10nm was initially yielding in the single digit range for non-fully working devices, vastly less for fully working, it wasn’t economical to produce products based on it. Now that many of those technical hurdles appear to have been surmounted, it looks like yields are vastly better. Anyone want to bet that yields aren’t close to where the 5+ year old 14nm variants are?
When we wrote the original piece there were four fabs slated to transition to 10nm. One of these has been backported to 14nm, something which can’t be undone in a time relevant to the 10nm transition. Two of the remaining fabs installed lots of EUV tools which are meant for the 7nm process, not the 10nm process. This effectively precludes these facilities from producing 10nm.
This left one fab which was slated for 10nm, and try as we might we couldn’t get definitive information on. Meanwhile we had several sources confirming the information about the three other fabs and telling us that 10nm was unquestionably dead. As it turns out they, and SemiAccurate, were wrong, it is coming out in some form in Q4/2019.
Volumes are less of an open question, or at least the general range is. Based on what Intel is doing with fabs and equipment, it is unquestionable that 10nm volumes are severely reduced. Even if Intel adds another 10nm fab it looks like 10nm wafer throughput will be no more than half of what it was slated for just a few years ago. From where things sit now it looks like the wafer throughout on 10nm will be ~1/4 of what was planned earlier. Why? Remember what we said about economic viability?
So if volumes are so low, costs so high, performance so… meh, and all the rest, why is Intel bothering? The best theory SemiAccurate has heard is that there are certain technical hurdles on 10nm that needed to be solved because they were used in 7nm. If these challenges were not overcome in 10nm, the same work would need to be done under the banner of 7nm anyway so why not just fix 10nm and make some devices while you are at it?
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..INTEL disse:Intel: We will lead the world to 10nm microprocessors
“Intel’s 10nm ramp is accelerating with multiple waves of products running or staged,” an Intel spokesperson said. “We have steady, consistent predictable progress on yields with two factories in volume production and, as we see growing demand for these products, a third coming online.”
Intel needs to run its fabs in HVM mode to ensure that they are profitable, so it is not surprising that one of the 10nm-ready fabs is yet to start its high-volume ramp.