serj_tankian
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@P4rthen0n então o realme X2 pro é o que?
Este saiu mais recentemente tem o 865, nada a dizer. O que referi é isso, o que encarece muito no poco f2 é o modem 5g no 865, facto. Facto esse que não pode ser aproveitado por muita gente. Logo torna o preço descabido face ao real uso.
O que me parece é que o poco f2 teve que deixar de fora certas opções para evitar que o preço subisse mais.
Este saiu mais recentemente tem o 865, nada a dizer. O que referi é isso, o que encarece muito no poco f2 é o modem 5g no 865, facto. Facto esse que não pode ser aproveitado por muita gente. Logo torna o preço descabido face ao real uso.
O que me parece é que o poco f2 teve que deixar de fora certas opções para evitar que o preço subisse mais.
From a 5G plus Snapdragon 865 perspective, the argument continues to stand: Qualcomm’s latest SoC and the accompanying 5G hardware makes flagships more expensive than ever before, with a steep price jump. The blame also rests on the Snapdragon 865 by itself, as Qualcomm is selling this SoC to OEMs at a much higher price than its previous flagship chips. As POCO’s GM Mr. C. Manmohan mentioned in an interview with Android Authority:
Chipsets right now, all 800-series chipsets, are extremely expensive. And [the Snapdragon 865], being the first 5G generation, is just a lot more expensive. The 855 was launched with a higher price point and we expected that also to undergo some depreciation. But 865 has launched extremely high and now the transition from 4G to 5G is happening across the board. So the depreciation the 855 should have seen did not happen.
The same report cites various sources and gives us a rough estimate of the price per chip. The Snapdragon 845 reportedly cost manufacturers around $45 plus an additional licensing fee per chip. The Snapdragon 855 and Snapdragon 855+ cost $53 plus an additional licensing fee per chip. This price increase not only affected the price of the flagships released in 2019, but it also continues to affect the viability of flagship killers into 2020 as the chip has not depreciated as much as previous trends. Xiaomi’s CEO Mr. Lei Jun had commented that the Snapdragon 865 cost them about $70 on the Mi 10 — making it one of the biggest jumps in cost in recent times and one that directly contributes to a steep rise in flagship pricing. A teardown analysis of the Mi 10 from TechInsights pitches the SoC to be $81, while the modem costs another $26.50, and the RF component costs $33.50, equalling a cool $141. While this is an estimate from a teardown and can miss out on the benefits derived from factors-of-scale, it does make one point clear — the Snapdragon 865 is expensive, with a price increase greater than previous flagship SoCs.
A teardown cost analysis of the Xiaomi Mi 10 from TechInsights
Not only is the Snapdragon 865 more expensive, but it also requires other components and other changes that further drive up the cost. The discrete 5G modem and the additional multiple antennae require more space inside the phone. As a result, the phone body gets larger, the display gets larger, the battery gets larger, and OEMs have been throwing in larger and more camera sensors into the mix too, to make the most out of the situation. All of these cost money, and the consumer has to pay for it.
Snapdragon 865 and Qualcomm’s monopoly in the upper end of the SoC market has forced “premium flagships” to evolve into “ultra-premium flagships”. OEMs are also incorporating more advancements in the display and camera segments, which exerts further pressure on this forced evolution. A price increase in this “luxury” segment is easier to digest keeping in mind that the target audience for these ultra-premium phones has a higher propensity to spend.
What isn’t easy to digest is the doom that the Snapdragon 865 spells out for Flagship Killers, as it hungrily devours the ~$400 budget as espoused in the community definition. There is just not enough budget left over for other components even if an OEM were to stick to a middling-quality level.
5G in no-5G Land
What makes matters even worse is the fact that 5G comes with its own limitations. The technology still has a long way to go before it matures and sees widespread adoption, and this is in the context of developed markets that have already jumped onto the train.
Eu até te podia argumentar porque é que a Apple está a fazer o sentido inverso, mas fica para o topico do SE. E em nada é gozar se tiveres noção do mercado
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