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Nem de propósito hoje postei os problemas do 810 e agora há este suposto leak:

Qualcomm late 2015 roadmap leaks out: 14nm FinFet Snapdragon 820 surfaces, 'Taipan' Krait successor


Qualcomm’s roadmap for the second half of 2015 seems to have leaked out in its entirety, a leak revealing many juicy details about what the best devices of 2015 could run on.

The star of the H2 2015 show is the successor to the current Snapdragon 810 system chip: theSnapdragon 820. Alleged specifications for the upcoming system chip show two key advancements: a quick transition to 14nm FinFet manufacturing at Samsung and GlobalFoundries fabs, and the roll-out of what seems like the first custom Qualcomm 64-bit CPU cores under the Taipan architecture.

Qualcomm has dominated the market in the past three years with its Snapdragon chips featuring Krait CPU cores found in most major flagships, but the need for a quick transition to 64-bit chips coincided with the end of life for Krait, forcing the company to release the Snapdragon 810 without its own custom core (which was simply not ready). The Snapdragon 820 is expected to feature an octa-core setup with eight TS2 high-performance cores. It’s impressive that Qualcomm might be ready to iterate on the 810 so quickly and bring us a fully custom core in the second half of 2015 when we expect to see the new Samsung Galaxy Note 5, and other late-year stars.

The transition to 14nm FinFet is also hugely important as it will bring solid improvements in performance and efficiency. Interestingly, we’re seeing Samsung and GlobalFoundries as the fabs of choice, and there’s no mention of TSMC at the moment.

Other Snapdragon 820 features include a new Adreno 530 GPU, support for the faster LPDDR4 RAM, as well as a advanced MDM9X55 LTE-A Cat.10 Qualcomm modem.

This, however, is not the only Snapdragon 8xx series chip planned for the second half of 2015. The other one carries the Snapdragon 815 name, and is again an octa-core design, but this time instead of eight TS2 cores there are four TS1 and four TS2 in a big.LITTLE configuration. The GPU of choice in the 815 is an Adreno 450, with the modem and RAM standard remaining the same MDM9X55 LTE-A Cat.10 modem and LPDDR4. The Snapdragon 815, however, will be manufactured on the 20nm node, a fact that might to have a lot to do with lower initial yields for the more advanced 14nm process.

Then, we’re moving onto mid-range territory with three solutions: the Snapdragon 620, 625, and 629. The Snapdragon 625 and 629 look identical: both are octa-core SoCs with Adreno 418 GPU, LPDDR4 RAM, a lower-class MDM9X45 LTE-A Cat.10 modem, all manufactured on 20nm HKMG Samsung/GF process. There are no details about whether we’ll see Qualcomm’s own core design here or a generic ARM Cortex solution. The Snapdragon 620, on its part, is a more affordable quad-core chip that is said to use Qualcomm Taipan cores running at between 2 and 2.5GHz. It will come with lesser-standard, LPDDR3 RAM, but for all else is nearly identical with the afore-mentioned Snapdragon 62x series: it will feature an Adreno 418 GPU and MDM9X45 LTE-A Cat.10 modem.

Finally, leaks reveal a Snapdragon 616 chip that is expected to come with eight ARM Cortex A53 cores running at between 1.8GHz and 2.2 Ghz, and sport an Adreno 408 graphics chip. This SoC comes with an LTE-A Cat. 6 modem and is made on a 28nm HKMG by Shanghai-basied Semiconductor Manufacturing International Company (SMIC) factory.

Finally, we should warn you that this leak originates from China, and this is no surprise given that many of the fabs Qualcomm depends on are there. It seems true to life (but a 14nm Snapdragon 820 could take more time to arrive to actual devices), but we cannot vouch for the authenticity of these leaked documents, so do take them with a grain of salt.

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Ou seja, temos finalmente o custom core ARMv8 da Qualcomm numa configuração de 4+4, 14nm fabricado pela global foundries/samsung, nova geração de gráfica Adreno 530, modem LTE-A Cat.10 e memórias LPDDR4. Sinceramente acho fruta a mais para o time frame que sugerem de final de 2015. É esperar e ver o que daqui sai :P
 
Com os atrasos que a TSMC está a ter com o processo de 16nm não me admira que queiram avançar para os 14nm na concorrência. Só falta a Nvidia saltar do barco também..
 
Temos que admitir uma coisa, a Samsung em fabrico de semicondutores é uma bomba, seja memória flash, RAM ou outros tipo de ICs, eles dominam a tecnologia toda. Daí que tenham conseguido avançar nos processos de fabrico.
 
Temos que admitir uma coisa, a Samsung em fabrico de semicondutores é uma bomba, seja memória flash, RAM ou outros tipo de ICs, eles dominam a tecnologia toda. Daí que tenham conseguido avançar nos processos de fabrico.
Sem dúvida! E em relação ao 810/820, provavelmente haverá um 'salto' devido aos fails do 810.
 
Aqui está a confirmação dos rumores:


Anandtech - Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 820 and Zeroth Platform

Today, Qualcomm is announcing the new Zeroth Platform, which is enabled by the Snapdragon 820 SoC.

While Qualcomm is avoiding any real disclosure of the SoC at this point, we do know that the Snapdragon 820 will be built on a FinFET process, which could be either TSMC’s 16nm or Samsung’s 14nm process. In addition to all of the improvements that the move to a new process brings, Qualcomm is finally introducing their custom ARMv8 CPU core, named Kryo. Unfortunately, there are no real details here either, but given that there’s only one architecture named it’s likely that Qualcomm is moving away from big.LITTLE with the Snapdragon 820.

The final detail regarding Snapdragon 820 is that it will begin sampling in the second half of 2015, which should mean that we can expect it to be in devices some time either at the end of 2015 or the beginning of 2016. Ultimately, the fact that Qualcomm has come up with a custom ARMv8 CPU architecture in such a short time continues to show just how quickly Qualcomm can respond to changing market conditions, something that we first saw with the Snapdragon 810.

Ars - Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 820 will feature Kryo CPU, Krait’s 64-bit successor

BARCELONA, Spain—Qualcomm, after an agonizingly long wait, has finally revealed a few details about its next-gen, top-end CPU core. Called Kryo, the 64-bit CPU core will debut in the Snapdragon 820 SoC, which will begin sampling "on a leading edge FinFET process" in the second half of 2015. It should be in consumer devices by this time next year.

Those are all the definite details that we have from Qualcomm, but we can infer a few more. "Leading edge" FinFET in this case will refer to either 16nm at TSMC or 14nm at Samsung/Global Foundries. Kryo will be a 64-bit ARM chip, which means it will be compatible with the ARMv8 instruction set, but beyond that we would expect to see a brand new microarchitecture that is better suited to a wider range of usage scenarios than Krait. It's fairly safe to assume that Qualcomm will once again target performance-per-watt for both Kryo and the dozens of other hardware blocks that eventually make up Snapdragon 820.

The Snapdragon 820 SoC will play a key role in a new cognitive computing platform that Qualcomm is calling Zeroth. Cognitive computing is a fairly nebulous and nascent idea that refers to computers that can cleverly adapt to ambiguous, uncertain, human problems. In the case of the Zeroth platform, Qualcomm has developed a software suite that leverages underlying hardware blocks (the modem, the image signal processor, the audio codec, etc.) to provide some clever functionality. Intuitive Security, for example, uses behavioral analysis to provide more secure authentication and protect against malware threats. Another feature uses various environmental conditions to trigger contextual actions (yes, this requires the microphone and other sensors to be always-on). Apparently, Zeroth will even be able to "personalize and adapt interactions by recognizing [facial] expressions."

Qualcomm will be demonstrating Zeroth on the show floor at Mobile World Congress. We'll be sure to try some of them out over the next few days. There's no word on where and when we'll actually see shipping devices based on the Zeroth platform, but presumably it'll be around the same time as Snapdragon 820.
 
E no meio de tanta humilhação com o fresquinho snapdragon 810 lá vão saindo mais rumores do 820:

Upcoming Flagship Snapdragon 820 Gets Benchmarked

Se for confirmado é preocupante para a Qualcomm pois significa que apenas vão ficar próximos do Exynos 7420 que já anda no mercado há algum tempo. E vamos ver como é de consumos e temperaturas pois o 810 está mais que visto que foi um desastre :\
 
É o que dá fazer um SoC com um TDP de 10w para telemóveis...
Enfiar 40 cores que não podem passar de umas centenas de Mhz ou rebenta..
 
Já está por todo lado a """noticia""". Que palhaçada de rumores. A ver se desta vez a Qlcom é mais dura e agressiva em PR.
 
Quad core a 3ghz? Assim é normal que os problemas de aquecimento continuem.

Parece que estamos a chegar à era pentium 4 nos telemóveis. Ahahah
 
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