S3 Roadmap / Multi-G

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The so far planned models GammaChrome S14 (4 pipelines, Low-Cost) and GammaChrome S19 (8 pipelines, Mid-Range) have been dropped and instead Chrome S2X turns in. Chrome S2X contains 8 pipelines and is manufactured in 0,09 µm. So clock rates of at least 700 MHz should be possible with the top model Chrome S27. The models Chrome S23, S25 and S27 are due for the market. The models will most likely only differ in the clock rate. Engineering Samples should exist already and the mass production is expected to begin in November 2005. If everything works as planned, Chrome S2X based gaphic cards could reach the market in December! In general Chrome S2X is another reincarnation of the well-known Columbia Design on which DeltaChrome and GammaChrome are already based. However there are two considerable differences: Chromotion 3.0 and Multi-G!

Chromotion 3.0

Chromotion 3.0 is the further developed Chromotion-Engine known from DeltaChrome and GammaChrome. Apart from this old features such as MPEG2 acceleration and DeBlocking filter, Chromotion 3.0 offers hardware acceleration of the video formats WMV9 HD and MPEG4. Both formats are very important for HDTV and therefure S3 Graphics made a very good improvement.

Multi-G

Mulit-G is - as the name supposes - the technology of S3 Graphics to enable the parallel operation of two (or more) PCI-Express graphic cards, a technology similar to nVidias SLI or ATIs CrossFire. More exact details are not yet known, but it is very likely that the technology resembles the ones of the competition. Whether a special Bridge is used like nVidiaor a special master card is needed like ATi or another third own variant is used, is not unknown until now. S3 Graphics reacted with this step to the increasing meaning of Multi-GPU configurations and is just close to ATi with its solution (if the schedules are kept). So S3 Graphics is relatively early present ins this apparently rapidly growing market. With the help of Multi-G, S3 Graphics want to make step into into the performance market. Two Chrome S27 graphics cards with 700+ MHz clock rates could possible match this target.

Multi-G is then of course important for Destination Films: The two models D1 (Upper Mainstream) and D2 (Mainstream) are planned for third (D1) and the fourth quarter 2006 (D2). With Multi-G the performance market should aslo be occupied. The are unfortunately no further specification known for Destination Films, except that it's supporting DirectX 10 with pixel and vertex shaders 4.0.

http://www.chrome-center.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=78&Itemid=63

A uni/delta/gamma Chrome são os actuais Gpu da S3. Destination Films é o Gpu com suporte Dx10 (eles vão saltar o SM3).
Estas S2X são apenas para o mercado médio/baixo, já a 0.09.

O SLi veio para ficar. Todas as empresas estão a tentar uma solução destas.
Nesta altura não me parece que o Multi-G faça sentido na gama da S3. Talvez quando aparecer a Destination Films.
 
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greven disse:
Será que há alguém a comprar estas placas? Tipo, mesmo ser ser personal buyers, tipo empresa, Dell, etc?

O maior cliente da S3 deve ser de longe a Via (são os donos).
O Unichrome está em varios *****, para PIV, A64 e o C3.
Por causa disto, a Unichrome e gpu anteriores da S3 devem estar em muitas empresas, computadores baratos e muitos mini-itx.
Em Dells não estão de certeza, porque eles só compram ***** intel e recentemente nF4 versão intel.

Quanto a placas mesmo, penso que só a S3 e a Club3d é que comercializam a delta/gamma chrome.
Para o que são, não envergonham ninguem. Simplesmente, nesta altura, não competem no High e mid-end.
Uma Gammchrome anda +/- ao nivel de uma X600Pro.
 
Já agora, fazendo um pequeno threadjack, acho que se a ATI não suportasse o SM 3.0 estes morriam por apenas terem suporte em hardware nVidia... Com tantos atrasos... acho que a ATI apenas não quis arriscar e passar por incompetente. Mas que estão quase a tornar-se uns PS 1.4 lá isso estão!
 
Uma pequena preview:

It's all about power

The Chrome20 series of products use 90nm process technology. S3G have gone for low voltage and cool operating temperatures with Chrome20. They're also claiming the 'highest core clock of any GPU to date', though at the time of writing HEXUS doesn't have any clock speeds to share. However, what we do know is that it will have eight pixel shaders. Given the surge (if you'll excuse the pun) in concerns over power consumption, particularly with graphics cards and processors, performance per watt is the new buzz-phrase echoing around the tech-world and S3 are pitching high performance per watt as one of the key features of Chrome20.

Chrome20 products will be available as both mainstream desktop and mobile products, so if Chrome20 really does offer good performance with minimal power consumption, it could be a winner amongst laptop vendors. Looking at one other aspect of Chrome20's manufacturing process, you'll be finding a distinct lack of lead, that means ROHS compliance - well ahead of next year's mandated schedule.

Features

Chrome20 is by no means going to take on the high-end cards, instead looking to provide good performance for your more average user. S3G want Chrome20 to run games smoothly under standard settings. The media brief from S3G states this as being at 'full resolution', which presumably equates to the 1024x768 or 1280x1024 resolutions most users tend to run games at currently.

We were offered a chance for some hands on play with a mid-range Chrome20 series desktop board – the machine was loaded with over 40 top games. A quick run of Half Life2 , Far Cry , Halo and a couple of other titles demonstrated that S3G’s new 90nm mainstream card was working without any visual problems and with very playable frame rates – this is the best solution they've had for quite a while and we are keen to get our hands on our sample. The board was a reference design with a tiny little fan-sink (see picture) supporting S3G’s assertion that the power dissipation is very low.

Looking beyond gaming, media playback is also a key feature of the Chrome20 series. S3 Graphics have pride in their hi-def support, with Chrome20 being no exception, supporting hi-def wide-screen and with enhanced HDTV connectivity. We suggested to S3G that they consider putting HDMI on their boards, but we had a 'no-comment' response, so we'll have to wait and see. For those of you not familiar with HDMI, standing for High-Definition Multimedia Interface, it's an uncompressed digital video and audio interface, backwards compatible with DVI. It's something we'll see more of on HDTVs, set top boxes, monitors and graphics cards in due course.

Chrome20 features a new 'Chromotion Programmable Video Engine' which S3 say delivers more features at a better level of performance. Of course, all of this is happening with the minimum of power consumption. S3G continued focus on the media playback and low power is going to make this series of products worth a close look for Home Theatre PCs and Media Center Edition PCs.


When?

We should see the Chrome20 series become available before the holiday season this year. Meanwhile, here's a little peek at a Chrome20 series PCIe card:

Chrome20
 
Uns updates da S20

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S3 readies 6600 SLI killer

S3 FINALLY CAME OUT with their ChromeS20 series of chips today. We have told you some of it earlier, here and here, but there are some interesting bits so far unsaid. The best one is that S3 has the highest clocking GPU out there, period. The ChromeS27 chip runs at a blistering 700MHz core, 700MHz memory.

There is a problem though, this chip is not a 7800GTx crusher, it is fast but narrow. S27 has 4 vertex shaders and 8 pixel shaders, so for those paying attention, it is aimed solidly at the mid-range. It's target market is the 6600s and X700 range of chips, and it has a decent shot at being a contender in that market. The worst downside is that it is only PS and VS 2.0+, not 3.0.

The chip is less about raw performance than it is low power. The GPU itself in the ChromeS27 takes 10-12W, 17-30 for the entire card. For this, you get 2800-3600 in 3DMark05. Not all that bad, and it can even run fanless if necessary, the ones I saw though had a commendably small fan.

One other nifty thing they do is run in a dongle-free SLI-type two card mode called MultiChrome. The nice thing about it is S3 has no proprietary turf to defend, so you can use it on just about anything that supports two PCIe slots. In fact, you can use it in as many slots as you have, but I am told somewhat off the record that after three cards, the performance doesn't increase enough to be worth it.

Last week, at the secret S3 fortress in the glaciated peaks outside of San Jose, I got to see it in action. I can say that it runs 3DMark05 just fine in dual card mode, and gets a bit less than 2x the single card speed. The performance is not stunning, but with a single card, you can play most cutting edge games at 1024*768. With two cards, 1280*1024 should be quite doable and fast.

There is also a lower end version called the ChromeS25, and it clocks at 600/400, does not support DDR-3, and does not do MultiChrome. Instead, you get AcceleRAM technology, a fancy term for using main memory instead of card memory. This leads to cheap cards that don't perform all that badly, certainly better than not having that memory available.

Both cards, the S25 and S27 have a ton of video features available. Per pixel Gamma correction, a ton of blending modes, depth of field and color fog start things out. Add on Chromotion 3.0, the latest S3 high def video engine, and you have something. On the slides I got, S3 claims they can do WMV-HD decoding at a much lower CPU usage than the GeForce 6600 series chips, and if the things I hear about the X1300 series are true, that one should be a walk over.

So, you have fast video, low power, and decent gaming performance. While it may not be my first choice for a dedicated box, it looks very attractive for media center applications. Fanless, low power and HD capable? I like it.

How much will these chips cost? The S27 is going to cost around the $100 mark for a 128MB version, and the 256 will run about $130. For the performance of a mid-range 6600, that is not a bad thing.

Drivers and availability are another thing, something that S3 has not had a stellar track record on of late. For a while, I have been told that this time is really different for the company, both by insiders and partners. I hope so, we need a third player in the GPU business, competition always makes the consumer win. Lets hope this is the start of an S3 comeback, but I will wait for real world benches before I say that for sure.

http://theinquirer.net/?article=27438

Fujitsu and S3 Graphics tie up to make 3D graphics processors

Fujitsu today announced that it will be producing S3 Graphics' new range of high-performance graphics processors, leveraging Fujitsu's 90nm process technology, at its Mie plant, in Mie prefecture (Japan).

Fujitsu will manufacture the "Chrome" graphics processor family, S3 Graphics' most advanced 3D graphics processors, says the company. The new silicon built with the 90nm process technology at Fujitsu shows up to 75% performance improvement over earlier S3 Graphics generations, enabling the new range to offer richer Hi-Def video features and more vibrant 3D graphics, according to the company.

Fujitsu’s 300mm wafer facility, which was launched at its Mie plant in April 2005, has expanded and enhanced the vendor's capability to produce CMOS semiconductor products for its customers, according to the company. Based on Fujitsu's aggressive technology roadmap, S3 Graphics is looking to continue its foundry relationship with Fujitsu for products beyond the 90nm generation.

"We are extremely pleased that S3 Graphics recognizes Fujitsu for our advanced 90nm technology and integrated services," said Toshihiko Ono, Corporate Executive Vice President at Fujitsu. "This agreement represents an excellent development for our foundry business, and we look forward to building an even stronger relationship with S3 Graphics going forward."

"Fujitsu's proven 90nm fabrication technology will enable us to offer the fastest yet lowest power-consuming graphics products," said Dr Ken Weng, General Manager and Vice President at S3 Graphics. "We are very happy not only with Fujitsu's highly advanced technology, but also with their high-quality, complete turnkey services, and look forward to maximizing the production advantages we get with Fujitsu's technology roadmap in delivering attractive and competitive graphics products to the market in a timely manner."

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20051102PR200.html

É um gpu interessante. Baixo consumo, boas features, relativamente barato. Falta ver os drivers
 
Se os drivers forem minimamente decentes e a performace q foi descrita é real entao axo q a s3 agora tem definitivamente produtos competitivos no mercado actual.... é preciso é q nao se atrazem mt a po-las ca fora senao perdem uma boa oprtunidade de se reafirmarem :003:
 
o baixo consumo e altos clocks é interessante , mobile wise ,espero seja um gpu que a s3 possa trabalhar e fazer e fazer algo realmente competitivo num futuro proximo
 
Olhem que eu aínda tenho para aqui uma S3... Trio 64v+, com 1MB de EDO-RAM e slot para expansão para 2MB ;)

Era bom naquela altura. Só podia escolher resoluções no desktop entre 1024x768 a 8bit (256 cores), ou 800x600 a 16bit (65k cores). 3D, só por software e com sorte. Life was simple... D

Anyway, os drivers da S3 "versão Taiwan" (a empresa original era americana) "suckam big time", e duvido que haja volta a dar-lhes.
 
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blastarr disse:
Olhem que eu aínda tenho para aqui uma S3... Trio 64v+, com 1MB de EDO-RAM e slot para expansão para 2MB ;)

Era bom naquela altura. Só podia escolher resoluções no desktop entre 1024x768 a 8bit (256 cores), ou 800x600 a 16bit (65k cores). 3D, só por software e com sorte. Life was simple... D

Anyway, os drivers da S3 "versão Taiwan" (a empresa original era americana) "suckam big time", e duvido que haja volta a dar-lhes.

muito, mas mesmo muito fallout II joguei eu com essa placa...
tenho ca uma igualzinha. ja tem uns 10 ou 11 anos, mas trabalha perfeitamente. :D
 
Infelizmente as 6600 antigas (300/550; core/mem) acabam de desaparecer do mercado.

Agora são 6600 DDR2 (350~400/800).

Entretanto, depois dos 78.01, saíram os 78.03, os 81.85 (ambos oficiais) e os 81.87 (betas semi-oficiais, na nZone).
 
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