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|Oc|CRASH_OVer disse:
a nintendo nao vai na cantiga dos Tflops, são apenas PR bullsh*t...
3x mais potente que a GameCube é mt bom...
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Mesmo sendo um número realista, é bastante pouco.

Se pensares bem, 3 vezes a performance da gamecube é apenas o suficiente para fazer exactamente os mesmos gráficos que faz agora a gamecube mas com uma resolução 1080p.
 
ToTTenTranz disse:
Mesmo sendo um número realista, é bastante pouco.

Se pensares bem, 3 vezes a performance da gamecube é apenas o suficiente para fazer exactamente os mesmos gráficos que faz agora a gamecube mas com uma resolução 1080p.
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Creio que a resolução não depende necessáriamente do processador de graficos, daí poder haver hit ou não. a custo acrescido por exemplo a playstation 2 poderia ter tido um chip auxiliar para saida a resoluções superiores a hit zero, aliás a XBOX de 480p para 1080i dá cerca de 8% de hit o que nem é muito se considerarmos o trabalho acrescido. a gamecube que nalgumas coisas até tem potencia para empatar coa xbox ir acima de 480p nem pensar, isto porque o gpu da xbox foi desenhado de raiz para resoluções superiores. Unica coisa que resta à gamecube é fazer super sampling mas a saida é na mesma a 480p.
Os graficos, suponho que estejam a falar de 3 vezes com efeitos e alta resolução aplicada e sem hit da mesma, ou seja... condições reais, se assim fôr tendo em conta o que a gamecube deu... pá esta consola poderá estar entre uma 6600GT e uma 6800GT, mas vamos esperar para saber mais detalhes, que não é por especulação que se lá chega.

se a consola tiver mais ou numero igual a 16 pipelines e mais de 600 MHz no gpu... já será bastante razoável e provávelmente bastante acima das 3 vezes anuncidadas pela nintendo.

mas sim o numero 3 também não me pareçe o suprasumo das consolas, mas nada que já não se esperasse. chega e sobra
Ainda não vi foi revolução nenhuma não me venham dizer que a revolução é caber na deck de autoradios dos carros...

(esta consola com 1 acessório ecrã lcd tipo portátil ficava linda)
 
Wifi, 512 MB flash, SD

cpu -> ibm, gpu -> ati

Compatibiliadade com todos os sistemas Nintendo (desde a NES) :eek:

Apresentação do Game boy Micro. (mesmo muito pequeno, tem 2 botoes e parece do tamanho de um ipod)

Edit: Acabou agora a apresentação.

A Nintendo não mostrou quase nada da Revolution. Passaram o tempo a falar da DS, micro e gamecube, com o novo zelda pelo meio, um jogo com uns cães, marios ao pontapé, etc.

Nem o comando mostraram da Revolution. Que apresentação mais estranha. Tudo o que mostraram a nivel de specs é o que está neste post. Acho que não me estou a esquecer de nada.
 
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Nemesis11 disse:
Wifi, 512 MB flash, SD

Compatibiliadade com todos os sistemas Nintendo (desde a NES) :eek:

Apresentação do Game boy Micro. (mesmo muito pequeno, tem 2 botoes e parece do tamanho de um ipod)
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mas qual a revolução? ainda n vi pics dos comandos :S mas a revolução passou-me ao lado >>
 
JA acabou a conferencia? :S

Parece q sim

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9:30 am: Kodak Theatre, fifth floor, Ball Room. Nintendo's annual E3 conference is about to start. The house is packed full. Many people could not score seats and are standing at every side of the auditorium.

9:37 am: Still nothing. Nintendo is fashionably late.

9:40 am: The fire marshall is not happy. The start of the conference is delayed until the most flammable Nintendo fans are moved out of the way.

9:45 am: Lights dim. The crowd claps. A Nintendo intro video appears on screen. Reggie voiceover remix: "We remain all about the games. My name is Reggie, we're about kicking ass."

9:50 am: Iwata takes stage. Says he's about playing games. "Who's your daddy," he asks. A video plays.

9:51 am: Footage of DS games. Footage of Geist, ElectroPlankton, Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Zelda, Killer 7, Viewtiful Joe DS, Madden, Batallion Wars. The crowd cheers. The video ends.

9:54 am: The crowd cheers and Reggie takes the stage. "We at Nintendo continue to explore the videogames," he says. Promises information about new gameplay on Nintendo DS and promises solid information on Nintendo Revolution.

9:55 am: Reggie jokes about console specs for 360 -- offers another number: "2." As in "2 billion games sold by Nintendo." Says it's just the beginning. "Nintendo is not an 'or' company. Nintendo is an 'an' company." Talks about how Nintendo is about "change" -- and how more change is on the way. "We exist for the love the game." Reggie promises a new dimension of gameplay on DS.

9:56 am: "Today, you will begin to understand how our Revolution is preparing to storm the gates." Says Nintendo created the game space and "we're not moving out." He then compares the Game Boy Advance to PS2 in sales -- GBA has sold more than 28 million units in the US, even though it launched eight months later. Global sell-through for DS is 5 million -- twice that of PSP.

9:59 am: Hollands still likes it. Takes the stage to demonstrate some music tracks. He composed entire tracks from the unit. Sound demo appears to use sounds from synthesizers, however (the bass is too heavy for a DS demo).

10:01 am: Reggie returns. Says Nintendo didn't invent the concept of online gaming. But they intend to reinvent it. Reggie says Nintendo partnered with IGN Entertainment's GameSpy division to provide wireless online play -- uses hot spots around the world. "Simple and intuitive." Believes 90% of DS owners will be online. the service will be free, outside the house via hotspots and free inside your house. "Users won't face monthly gameplay bills." Reggie says Nintendo is working to overcome the current "macho style of online games."

10:04 am: "Around the world, 25 publishers are working on DS wireless games including all the big players. Mario Kart DS and Animal Crossing wireless internet by end of year -- Tony Hawk game, too. Mario Kart will be demoed on the showfloor wirelessly.

10:06 am: Nintendogs is up next. Taught the Japanese game world to sit up and take notice, with 400,000 copies sold in Japan in a month. DS was the bestseller in Japan for the launch period, outselling PSP by a factor of 3. Tina Wood from G4 takes the stage to demonstrate Nintendogs. She's got a pug named Mia. Tells the dog to say "hi" and dog moves mouth. Says "lay down" and dog lays down. Says "new Zelda" thee times and dog shows no reaction. Oops. A little Mario Kart is driving around the virtual room and the dog follows it. Then Tina gives the dog a bath and demonstrates "bark mode."

10:11 am: Tina uses wireless technology to search for a friend for to play with. System searches. We hear a bark. Bill Trinen's dog Mario comes into play.

10:12 am: Shigeru Miyamoto takes the stage. Applause. Miyamoto and Wood converse in English (she's his number 1 fan, etc.), Miyamoto's dog does a handstand in the game and then mount's Tina's dog. Laughter. Miyamoto asks: "Would you like me to show you a few more tricks?" She says yes. He replies: "Then please follow me backstage." Laughter.

10:14 am: Reggie shows the Game Boy Micro. Says "I know you haven't seen this. It's a hair bigger and two-thirds the weight of an iPod Mini." It's not new technology, but a new look and has the "best and brightest screen ever in a handheld." Not a successor to DS or GBA, but an extension of portable play. The system can be customized with a wide array of face plates and will hit this fall.

10:15 am: Reggie says games are the most important thing. Montage of video footage plays. Fire Emblem, Yoshi Topsy Turvy, Pokemon Emerald, Nintendogs, Mega Man Battle Network 5, Mario Kart DS, Need for Speed DS, Pac'n Roll, Trace Memory. Phoenix Wright, GoldenEye, Mario and Luigi 2, Advance Wars Dual Strike, Spyro, Kirby Kanvas Curse, Meteos, New Super Mario Bros., Castlevania, Trauma Center, Viewtiful Joe DS. End of montage. Iwata is back on stage.

9:18 am: Iwata takes tage. Introduces Revolution. Holds up the tiny, Mac Mini-sized unit. Crowd cheers. Says it's the smallest console Nintendo has ever manufactured. Says the final machine will be even smaller than the concept unit he's holding. Can stand horizontally or vertically. Revolution will play 12cm (DVD) discs (and GameCube software, too). Added attachment can be used to play movies and other DVD content. Machine has 512 MB of onboard flash memory for data storage.

9:20 am: "When you turn on Revolution and see the graphics, you will say 'wow!'" "Our competitors have detailed the power of their core processor and display. But the advantages of our technology will also have no bearing on gameplay. I know, this is one of those mysterious comments," he says. Says wifi will be built into every Nintendo product so controller, TV, console, and internet can interact. Nintendo intends to develop a device that's functional and appealing to every member in the household -- whether gamers or not. All controllers will be wireless. Also, the controllers will be very unique "in ways we will share with you... later." Already working on several wifi games for launch. Smash Bros. will be launch game -- wifi.

9:24 am: For Revolution, "Miyamoto is challenging his teams to create something new." His new creation will debut with Revolution. Big franchises will of course be there -- including new versions of Mario and Zelda. Short (pre-rendered) Metroid Prime 3 clip showing Samus standing in front of her redesigned spaceship. "We expect strong third-party support in both hemisphere." For example, Square Enix is already working on Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicle for Revolution.

9:27 am: Iwata: Convinced game development on Revolution will be easier and far less costly than for other machines. "Big idea can prevail over big budget." Revolution is a solution to help maximize creative freedom. Iwata then talks about backward compatibility. "Redefining term of backward compatability." It's a virtual console, able to download 20 years of Nintendo content. You will be able to Download NES, Super NES and N64 games. You can get every Nintendo game ever made. "Revolution shares a vision with DS. The machine is just a tool for software."

9:30 am: Next year, Revolution will fully serve core gamers. "We will attract casual gamers using consumer friendly content control and internet. And we will even draw non-gamers to our Revolution showing them how much fun there is and what we all do already. We call this 'all-access gaming.'" Iwata concludes by saying gamers touch his heart when they pick up the controller and enjoy the games.

9:32 am: George Harrison takes stage to talk about GameCube. System has sold 10 million units in America alone. There are 60 new titles on the way in 2005. There will be 400 games in total.

9:33 am: Batallion Wars: save the world by clearing over 20 missions in a combination of action and RTS. Gameplay clip plays.

9:34 am: Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness. It's a full-fledged RPG with a dark and sinister plot. "Pokemon is serious business." Emerald and other GBA titles will move to the big screen when XD launches in October. A quick Killer 7 clip plays.

9:35 am: Harrison introduces new Mario titles: Super Mario Strikers, Mario Baseball, Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix (big cheers), and Mario Party 7. Montage shows Fire Emblem, Geist, Killer 7, Pokemon XD, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Donkey Konga 2, Incredible Hulk 2, Madagascar, Madden NFL 06, One Piece, Scooby Doo, Spartan, Mario Mix, Mario Party 7, Strikers , Mario Party, WWE Day of Reckoning 2, Harvest Moon, Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball, Shadow the Hedgehog, Midway Arcade, Medal of Honor.

9:38 am: "Of course we have saved the best for last. Today, prepare to see Link as you've never seen him before." Zelda trailer plays. Lights are flashing in the audience to simulate lightning flashes in the trailer. And yes, Link turns into a wolf in the trailer. Crowd goes wild.

9:41 am: Reggie is back on stage. Welcomes producer and director Eiji Aonuma. "Since you like the trailer, I have a present for you." Pulls Zelda video compressed on a DS cartridge out of a sleeve, goes "dadadadaaaa!" (Zelda chime.)

9:44 am: Reggie says good bye: "Be prepared to let your right brain run wild."

End of conference.
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*BUUUUUUUUUUUUU*
 
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Nemesis11 disse:
Yep.

Para quem não viu, nem sei se vale a pena sacar. Talvez pela parte do Game boy micro.....
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Só prova q a nintendo não tem nada de novo para mostrar, continua a vender o mesmo produto over and over again. Mais um prego no caixao :sad:
 
lammer.pt disse:
Só prova q a nintendo não tem nada de novo para mostrar, continua a vender o mesmo produto over and over again. Mais um prego no caixao :sad:
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E quem sabe nao mostram nada agora para a surpresa ser maior no final. ;)
 
lammer.pt disse:
(...)Só prova q a nintendo não tem nada de novo para mostrar, continua a vender o mesmo produto over and over again. Mais um prego no caixao :sad:
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lol... e a sony e a microsoft têm algo de novo pa mostrar?

agora prego no caixão? a gc foi a consola mais lucrativa desta geração em termos de jogos a unica editora que lucrou mais foi a EA e foi em multiconsolas... prego no caixão? é mais um pseudo-prego.

pá... isto só é ridiculo porque foi prometido algo diferente, que não está em lado nenhum.

não vejo revolução nenhuma

há um rumor não confirmado também:

(...)Games created for two next-generation consoles - the Xbox 360 from Microsoft and the PlayStation 3 from Sony - will display video in wide-screen high-definition format if the console is connected to a high-definition TV. Only Nintendo's entry, code-named Revolution, will not cater to HDTV's.
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>_>

mas como pareçe que aquilo tem um leitor de HD DVD e a perry kapplan disse qq coisa já tão a dizer que não, mas fogo... ONDE ESTÃO OS MEUS SPECS...

pá tou desiludido com esta E3, mesmo...

quero o meu "zelda toilet princess"

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E quem sabe nao mostram nada agora para a surpresa ser maior no final. ;)
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como quando não mostraram o luigi's mansion porque tinham medo que o copiassem? pá... eles não mostraram nada, fiquei na mesma, mas isto não me subiu o hype... é desilusão

subir o hype é antes da E3 na conferencia têm de dar specs para haver termo de comparação e têm de mostrar jogos, não é mostrarem a consola e dizerem... é revolucionária e quando sair será ainda mais pequena... revolucionária em quê? retrocompatibilidade? tamanho?

:'( e ainda n vi os comandos daquela coisa
 
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lammer.pt disse:
Estava a falar do game boy micro, já que da revolution não hja quase nada a falar, nem o design é final.
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esse gameboy novo é uma boa jogada... porque o DS não era suposto ter comido as vendas do GBA logo a gap de preço terá de ser maior...

Este gba será muito barato.

também aumenta a concorrencia na gama baixa entre consolas da nintendo, é uma boa medida para empatar enquanto a nintendo não lança o GB Evo
sim...

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When speaking to GameSpy in April of 2004, Satoru Iwata said the following:

"Some time in the future we may be able to combine the technologies of Game Boy and GameCube in a unit that will be small and light with a long enough battery life and a low enough price for the market," Iwata said. "We [will] need to find a reasonable balance between the high-functionality and the other requisite features in a portable system....Timing is very important. Even if there are new technologies that will make portable games more fun to play, if the price is too high or the other requisites are not met, we say it is premature."

Furthermore, Nintendo has been mulling over such an idea long before 2004. The initial development of the GameCube discs was said to be created with the insight of a long-term use in mind. Speaking at the 2000 Space World unveiling of the Nintendo GameCube, Genyo Takeda said the 8cm GameCube Optical Discs would be the future of interactive entertainment. Jim Merrick, former Nintendo of America technical director and current Nintendo of Europe managing director of sales and marketing said during an interview in September 2000, "Nintendo doesn't want to invest in a media format for the short term." With further comments in early 2000 from Shigeru Miyamoto that indicated the company could see the GameCube having a lifespan of eight years, all sorts of wild theories have since spread around the net.
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a gamecube não teve discos pequenos por nada... o gb evo se cumprir o que se propõe leva vantagem sobre a PSP em graficos e catálogo de jogos...

o problema é que é muito cedo. não me excitei sobre a PSP porque alguém apresentou a DS também não tou em pulgas perante uma GC portátil apesar de confessar que gostaria de jogar alguns jogos no ir.

o que ainda me interessa mais é os rumores (já de há um ano) de que a consola ia ter memória integrada que poderia através de um serviço qq correr jogos do gba entre outros... vendo o exemplo da "revolution"... isso faz, de facto, sentido.

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The system will feature backwards compatibility, but not in the same way the GBA plays old Game Boy games. Supposedly there will be a device that will allow you to download games from their carts into a harddrive-like element of the new Game Boy. Confusing, yes, but that's all we've managed to gleam. Speculate as you like.
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mas portanto disto isto... será possivel jogar jogos desse gb Evo tanto numa velha gamecube como numa nintendo revolution sem ser necessário 1 GB Player à lá gamecube style.

a questão das capas... já sabes como as vendas aumentam graças a essas mariquiçes.
 
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