Windows Vista Windows Vista Beta2 to be public TODAY!

algo vai mal nos testes do windows... vejam os meus resultados

eu com 1gb tenho uma pontuação muito superiro ao vine que tem 2gb :|

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Uma coisa interessante, em que tive opurtunidade de reparar, após ter instalar o office e o photoshop cs2, é oq gajo é estupidamente mais rápido a correr ambos...


EDIT: se bem que está esteja com 990 Mbytes de ram ocupada...

Só com duas instalações e operação de caca no IE e no messenger
 
Malamen, há duas repostas para isso:

- A tua ram é bastante melhor que a do VinE, isto é, mais rápida

- Mais um bug para a lista infindável do Vista Beta. :P
 
bet@tester disse:
Carissimo essa situação do boot.ini e historia do passado! assim que instalas o vista e como o boot system do vista é diferente nao vai aparecer nada nesse ficheiro! O ke realmente da para fazer e reparar o boot atravez do comandos FixMbr e Fixboot na consola de reparação do xp.

caro amigo, eu tb era fâ desses dois comandos, até um dia fazer isso num pc dum amigo meu e adeus disco, só mesmo com live cd é que consegui aceder-lhe depois disso, a sorte é que ele nao tinha lá nada de jeito....

ps:no caso dele, eram dois discos fisicos, nao sei se foi por isso, mas que fiquei com medo de o tornar a fazer fiquei, aliás, até ao executares os comandos aparece um aviso....
 
digam-m só uma coisa, há maneira d instalar o vista em raid0 numa asus p5cd1-x (chipset VIA PT880ultra)? é q kria experimentar o vista x64 m s n der pa manter o raid n m vale a pena... (e tb n tenho outro disco q possa por aki pa exprimentar...
 
Se a VIA já tiver os drivers para o Vista dá perfeitamente
Metes num CD ou numa Pen e quando chegar à fase das partições mandas o Vista ir à pesca
 
pois na página da via há drivers pa td excepto o vista...é preciso azar..lol... n há outra maneira qq? será q os do xp 64-bit dão ou n tem mm nd a ver? alguem sab?
 
vascorama disse:
caro amigo, eu tb era fâ desses dois comandos, até um dia fazer isso num pc dum amigo meu e adeus disco, só mesmo com live cd é que consegui aceder-lhe depois disso, a sorte é que ele nao tinha lá nada de jeito....

ps:no caso dele, eram dois discos fisicos, nao sei se foi por isso, mas que fiquei com medo de o tornar a fazer fiquei, aliás, até ao executares os comandos aparece um aviso....

Sendo bem feito nao ha como danificar o disco!
Imagina esta situação, tens um so disco com 3 partições por eg. 2 fat 32 e 1 ntfs, na 1 tens o xp instalado e na 3 tens o vista, removes o vista, por qualquer motivo, como esperas voltar a correr de novo xp? a solução apresentada pela MSFT e essa, correr esses dois comandos visto que o bootloader do vista ser diferente do xp.

No caso dos dois discos acontece exactamente o mesmo.

Nao estou a inventar nada, se pesquisares a kb da msft encontraras por la essa mesma resposta.

Vê esta informação retirada da instalation Guide do Vista Beta 2

REMOVING WINDOWS VISTA FROM YOUR SYSTEM


These instructions assume that you have dual-booted Windows Vista with a version of Windows XP. Note that if your Main OS is Windows Server 2003 or Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, the instructions given for XP can be followed using these other Windows versions.

1.If you installed Windows Vista as a STANDALONE operating system on its own PC, then simply reformat the hard drive it is on ; or do a clean install of another Windows version to your computer.

2.For cases where users have a DUAL BOOT scenario with another operating system, for example: Windows XP, then the user should boot into Windows XP and go to Disk Management (right click My Computer>Manage>Disk Management) and select the drive you have Windows Vista installed on, right click it and select Format. A quick format is all that is necessary. If an error message displays stating that the drive is in use, open My Computer from your Windows XP desktop, right-click the drive containing the Windows Vista installation you wish to remove and format it from there.

NOTE: Some Vista installations are not "visible" from Windows Explorer and no evidence exists that non visible Vista drives experience this "Drive in use" issue.

Go to the Start>Run dialogue box on your Windows XP and type "msconfig" (without the quotes). This will open the System Configuration Utility; go to the BOOT.INI tab and select "Check All Boot Paths". This process is automatic and when completed, select "OK" and "Apply". Do not select "Restart" at this point, but choose "Exit Without Restart" instead.

Next, you must delete the following files and folders from the root of your System drive or partition (Usually Drive C:\)

$RECYCLE.BIN
Boot (folder)
Boot.BAK
BOOTSECT.BAK

The computer may now be restarted.

Note: This Vista removal method, while relatively easy to use and effective, it does not carry out a full cleanup of your system and leaves traces of the Windows Vista installation on your Windows XP system drive. These "traces" will not interfere with your Windows XP operation should you choose not to remove them; however, if the user's intention is to install another operating system in place of Windows Vista or to reinstall Windows Vista, then users should follow the MULTI-BOOT REMOVAL METHOD indicated below.

3.To remove Windows Vista from a MULTI-BOOT environment where it has been installed on a system containing two or more other "Legacy" operating systems, and with Windows Vista still fully installed, insert your Windows XP CD into your CD/DVD Drive and reboot the computer, ensuring the DVD drive is the first boot device.

CAUTION: Modifying the contents of one's boot.ini file and bootsector may lead to not being able to access the operating system.

When prompted to by Setup, "Press any key to boot from CD...". Wait for the very first Setup screen at which Setup stops and press R (To repair a Windows XP Installation using Recovery Console, press R). If you installed Windows Vista to a Multi-Boot RAID Array, you will need to install your F6 RAID Floppy drivers, before you get to the setup screen where you press R to enter the Recovery Console.

Select your Windows XP partition > 1. C:\WINDOWS > type "1" (without the quotes) or the appropriate corresponding number for the drive containing your boot.ini

Insert your Administrator password when prompted and Enter

Type "fixboot" (without quotes) at the command prompt and Enter

Type "Yes" and when "Are you sure you want to write a new bootsector to the partition C: ?" appears, type "Y" and Enter

The following message will appear > "a new boot sector was successfully created".

At the command prompt type "exit" and Enter

When the system reboots you will notice that the Windows Vista bootloader no longer exists.

Boot into Windows XP and go to Disk Management (right click My Computer>Manage>Disk Management).

Select the drive you have Windows Vista installed on, right click it and select Format. A quick format is all you need. Should you get an error message stating that the drive is in use, open My Computer from your Windows XP desktop, right-click the drive containing the Windows Vista installation you wish to remove and format it from there.


Now go to Windows Explorer and delete the following files from the root of your Windows XP installation hard drive or partition:

$RECYCLE.BIN
Boot (folder)
Boot.BAK
bootmgr
BOOTSECT.BAK

Next, right click My Computer, select Properties>Advanced>Startup and Recovery>Settings and under System startup, make sure that Windows XP is selected as the Default operating system. If not, then select it as Default operating system and select OK at the foot of the Startup and Recovery user interface and again select OK at the foot of System Properties user interface.[/size]

To confirm that your boot.ini file is now correct, go to the Run dialogue box on your start menu and type "msconfig" (without the quotes). This will open the System Configuration Utility. Go to the BOOT.INI tab and select "Check All Boot Paths". You should get a dialogue box appearing with the message "It appears that all BOOT.INI lines for Microsoft operating systems are OK"

Restart your computer and you will note that the Windows Vista boot menu no longer exists and that only non-Windows Vista boot menu items are listed.

4.Should your primary operating system NOT be Windows XP, or where you have more than one instance of Windows Vista installed, it is strongly recommended that you use NEITHER the Dual-Boot Removal Method NOR the Multi-Boot Removal Method. In these circumstances, you are advised to post for assistance in our Windows Vista Chat & Support Forum where the Betas Team is available to give you the necessary advice and support.


Pre-Installation Notes

REMEMBER : You should obtain the version of Windows Vista Beta 2 that is suitable for your system hardware - the Vista x64 version can only be used with 64-bit hardware. If you are unsure of the capabilities of your computer system, you should download the x86 - or 32-bit - version of Vista, as it will work on either 32-bit or 64-bit capable computers. If you own an Itanium system, you should choose the IA64 version of Windows Server codename "Longhorn".


IMPORTANT NOTE : Previous builds of Windows Vista have been mainly available to a fairly tech savvy community, and some common terms used by that community may need some explanation for people who are new to Windows Vista and to Beta software in general. Because of this, PROnetworks has made a short list of terms that will help everyone understand this guide.

A Windows Vista "Build" is a term designating a particular compilation of the Windows Source Code into a useable Operating System. The term is also used to designate similar such serial compilations of other software.

Builds of Windows Vista are released as "
.ISO" files. These .iso files relate to and are defined by the International Standard for CD and DVD imaging. A Windows Vista .iso is actually the entire Vista Setup DVD contained in one file, made available by Microsoft for download. DVD burning software (Nero Burning ROM for example), and ownership of a DVD Burner, are required to create the desired physical Installation DVD from an .iso file.

The Windows Vista Beta 2 may also be obtained as a physical DVD from Microsoft, although some small shipping and handling costs may have to be paid.

The "
x86" and "x64" designate the older 32-bit standard (x86), used by Windows 98, Millennium, and Windows XP ; and the newer 64-bit standard used by Windows XP x64 Edition and Windows Server 2003 x64 Edition. This new x64 standard for Windows was released in 2005. Windows Vista exists in both x86 and x64 versions.

In case you're wondering why the 32-bit is not designated as "x32", it's because the standard was originally created by Intel and IBM for the 286, 386, and 486 generation of IBM PCs --- hence "x86".

A "
dual-boot setup" refers to a common method of installing more than one Operating Sytem on a single computer, so that for example, when starting your computer ("booting"), you will be able to choose which particular operating System to use during each work session. In this Guide, we assume that dual-booting refers to computers having both Windows XP and Windows Vista, although it should be noted that more than just two separate Operating Systems can be used on a single computer ("multi-booting").


The Vista DVDs include the following versions (known as "SKUs") of Windows Vista : Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista Business, and Windows Vista Ultimate Edition. Windows Vista Enterprise Edition as such has not been made available to the Public, although the Windows Server codename "Longhorn" is a part of that SKU. However, the Ultimate Edition includes all the specific extra features of that version, except for the specific Volume Licensing features.

Longhorn is a separate Operating System including a separate set of features to those of Windows Vista. It is not generally suitable as a desktop OS, unless you need to have Desktop features installed on a PC that is to be used primarily as a File Server system. Advanced User Interface capabilities may be enabled to allow such useage.

German and Japanese language versions of Windows Vista and Longhorn are also available.

To find out which version of Windows Vista is most suitable for your needs, prior to installation, you should feel free to run the
Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor Beta, which will also provide you with some provisional information about compatibility of your hardware with the new Windows version.

The partition size for your Windows Vista installation depends mostly on whether you wish to use it as a Main OS, or simply to install it for some quick testing purposes.

A 40 GB minimum installation volume, or more, is strongly recommended for using Windows Vista as a Primary Operating System, but if a simple evaluation setup is desired, it can be installed on a smaller partition >>> 15 GB for Vista Home Basic or Codename "Longhorn" Server Editions ; 20 GB for the Business Edition ; 25 GB for Home Premium or Ultimate Editions.

In all installation scenarios, you should use a NTFS Partition, ideally a Primary Partition, either created previously, or to be created during Windows setup. It has been found that Vista will install satisfactorily on a NTFS formatted Logical Drive within an Extended Partition, although Primary Partitions are generally preferred for a volume made to contain an Operating System.

Whilst upgrading from XP is superior in Beta 2 than in any previous builds, PROnetworks still cannot guarantee that any Upgrade attempts will be 100% successful, and would advise users NOT to attempt upgrading their principal Windows setup to Windows Vista.
The PROnetworks Betas and Support Teams believe that, generally speaking, moving to a new Windows version should involve a clean install of Windows, and all your software. In some cases however, an Upgrade scenario may be recommended, particularly for computers to be used in a professional or other advanced environment where time cannot be wasted to manually reset all computer settings as required.

Please note that the official build number of Windows Vista Beta 2 is 5384. It is sometimes referred to as 5384.4, so as to differentiate with an earlier 5384 compile which was demonstrated at WinHEC.




Abraço

By Bet@Tester
 
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acabei d instalar o vista e gostei bastant, embora ainda n saiba bem explorar isto... afinal n tiv d m preocupar com o Raid pk ficou td a funcionar sem precisar d drivers nenhuns adicionais, ássim q deu pa escolher o destino da instalaçao ja la estavam as minhas partiçoes :)
Reconheceu td bem até agora, impressoras, som (m axo q isto baralha os jacks das saidas pk o sub e a central tao cm colunas traseiras), lan, td na boa. Vou agora dedicar-m a instalar outro software.. já agora o office 2007 beta já é estável ou n é aconselhável a kem precisa mm d usar office pa workar?
 
Instalei o office 2007 no vista e parece q ainda funciona mais rápido do que no XP, outro software como Photoshop's, nao deu para ir pelo AutoRun, (vá-se lá saber pq), tive mesmo que procurar o Setup.exe e depois foi tudo na boa...
 
acabei de instalar num

2.2+
512mb sdr
80gb disco
5700ultra

só a memória é que estraga a classificação e o facto do Kaspersky 6 não dar para instalar :(
alguem consegue instalar as 5.1 ? só há drivers beta para as audigy... experimentei essas e não deu
 
Estás como eu em relacao à audigy, em relacao ao antivirus meti o avast, que além de ser grátis, deu na boa sem chatices nenhumas..
 
já instalei o Avast
VinE, mas para a Audigy têm, para as Live 5.1 é que não :)


PS: esta porra até a minha Brother de rede reconheceu e instalou perfeitamente, uma impressora que tem meses de mercado
 
Tenho a versão 64bits (em dualboot com XP), e a única coisa que falta
também são os drivers para x-fi :(

Supostamente, há aqui algumas soluções, para algumas placas Creative...
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board?board.id=Vista

O antí-virus (Symantec Antivirus version 10.0.1.622), não funciona...
Tento instalar o patch que o Slider colocou, mas diz-me que "não se aplica ao meu sistema"...

Para uma Beta, até nem parece muito mal, além de um ou outro bugzito, corre excelente no meu pc e ainda não tive (cerca de 15 dias), nenhum problema de maior.
 
1º ecrã azul :lol:

tentei instalar o Alchohol 120% e ele deu ecrã azul e reiniciou :x2:






EDIT: porra, os ecrãs azuis do Vista ainda são piores que os do XP :D
tive que por o cd, fazer um Restart Restore porque lixei o arranque quando deu o ecrã azul

vai lá vai... viva esta versão beta 2 :)
 
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LOL, foi pcausa da driver virtual de certeza, os drivers que eles teem lá sao para uma build já velhota...

Plo menos prá minha Audigy 2ZS n os consigo meter a funcionar, na beta1 no entanto, nao havia problema, lembro.me de ter a ouvir um sonzinho e tal enquanto ia experimentando as cenas
 
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