MMO World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

jaac disse:
Para mim vai ser:

Warriors - tank all around
Druid - offtank
Pala - aoe tank
DK - spell mitigation tank
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A Blizzard já deu a entender que será este o caso. O Death Knight vai ser mais virado para tank de caster mobs/bosses.

O meu entender é que isto será uma afinação mais para raids. Para 5 mans, sinceramente, acho que mais uma tanking class, especialmente uma que não tenha de fazer respec para o ser, é sem dúvida bem vinda.

Outro pormenor referido num post qq que li, é que a Blizz está a estudar formas de tornar mais viáveis a solo as típicas classes/specs de tank, nomeadamente através do aumento do dps (muito possivelmente qq coisa ao nível do que aconteceu com o gear de +healing, através da adição de +spell dmg).
 
Isso não era nada mau...pq farmar como prot warrior doí mas doí q se farta...prot pala e feral druid não sofrem desse pormenor, mas warrior é de ir às lágrimas...então se for num server pvp ui...
 
Eu faço as dailies com um prot warrior, nunca tive razões de queixa em relação ao dps do meu prot warrior.

Quanto aos DK, não me parece que venham a ser main tanks. Poderam tankar em situações especificas no entanto (spell dmg).
Provavelmente terão menos health/armor que os druids, e os druids tem dificultade no main tanking devido a spikes no dmg (crushing blows por exemplo).
 
xBoShY disse:
Eu faço as dailies com um prot warrior, nunca tive razões de queixa em relação ao dps do meu prot warrior.

Quanto aos DK, não me parece que venham a ser main tanks. Poderam tankar em situações especificas no entanto (spell dmg).
Provavelmente terão menos health/armor que os druids, e os druids tem dificultade no main tanking devido a spikes no dmg (crushing blows por exemplo).
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Não quer dizer q não se faça...a velocidade com que o fazes é q é infinitamente mais pequena...
Mas dailies não é farmar...ai ainda se nota mais...Not impossible but damn hard
 
xBoShY disse:
...Provavelmente terão menos health/armor que os druids, e os druids tem dificultade no main tanking devido a spikes no dmg (crushing blows por exemplo).
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Não há dificuldades nenhumas. Podemos ter mais spike damage mas se estamos num role de MT vamos levar com heals até dizer chega e a nossa health pool dá-nos, e a healers minimamente competentes, um buffer considerável de segurança. Além disso, a elevada percentagem de dmg mitigation através de armor suaviza consideravelmente isso.
Os crushings que levo pouca mossa fazem, mas eu também já estou muito perto do armor cap. Feral tanks foram "feitos" para comer crushings e nunca tive qualquer problema nesse capítulo.
Resumindo e concluindo, com excepção de lutas especificamente desenhadas para quem use escudo ;), não há nada que um warrior tank que um feral druid não possa tankar também.

PS: Com health pool suficientemente grande, acima de 23k salvo erro, até o Kael pode ser tankado por um feral druid ... E esse tipo foi a 56% na semana passada. Não há-de passar desta :D
 
Ainda noutro dia tive em off tank no Supremos a levar com os hateful strikes, e safei-me na boa. 23k hp

Já tankei todos bosses em ssc, tk (menos hydross vash / kael(nunca fomos lá)) e nunca tive probs.
 
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O problema dos druids tank está longe de ser os crushings dado que estão no cap do armor, o problema é o dodge. Tanto podes passar uma luta inteira sem levares um hit e não ganhas rage, como levas uma série de porrada de enfiada(viva às probabilidades).
 
jaac disse:
O problema dos druids tank está longe de ser os crushings dado que estão no cap do armor, o problema é o dodge. Tanto podes passar uma luta inteira sem levares um hit e não ganhas rage, como levas uma série de porrada de enfiada(viva às probabilidades).
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Geração de rage de um feral tank não é idêntica à de um warrior. É uma das razões porque dificilmente vês um warrior em papel de OT.

@UC
Eu como não tenho NR ou FR gear não tanko o Hydross (também convinha dar algo que fazer aos outros 2 prot warriors :-D). Regra geral estou a tankar 1 ou 2 adds consoante o nº de tanks que levamos.
A Vashj tankas na boa, aliás poupas os BoP cooldowns dos palas porque podes fazer powershift para saires das roots -> charge antes que ela veja que não tá ninguém ao perto e começe a dizimar a party. :002:
 
Já estão a ser conhecidos alguns talentos da próxima expansão:
Deathknight

Black Ice - Increases your Frost and Shadow spell damage by $s1%

BoneArmor: "The caster is surrounded by 4 whirling bones. Each bone reducesthe damage from the next spell or melee attack by 40% but is thenconsumed. Lasts 5 min."

Chromatic Rune Mastery: "Whenever aBlood, Frost or Unholy Rune activates, it has a 6% chance of convertinginto a Chromatic Rune. This Rune counts as a Blood, Frost or UnholyRune. Lasts 10 sec."

Degeneration: "Instantly attack the target,dealing $s1% weapon damage and inflicting a disease dealing ${$m2*7}over $48428d. This disease will corrupt an existing heal over timespell, removing it and dramatically increasing the damage dealt. Whileafflicted by this disease, other heal over time effects on the targetwill have no effect."

Army of the Dead - Summons an entire legion of your best Ghouls to fight by your side

Deathand Decay - ${$m1+$AP*0.039} shadow damage inflicted every $t1 sec toall targets in the effected area for $d. Has a chance to cause affectedtargets to cower in fear.

Dirge - Whenever you kill a diseasedtarget that yields experiance or honor you have a 5% chance of thecorpse rising as a free Ghoul. You can have a maximum of 2 Ghouls atone time

Blood Gorged When you are above 75% health, you do an additional 3% damage with any melee weapon

DancingRuneblade Summons a second Runeblade that fights on its own for 1 secper 10 Runic Power, doing the same strikes that you do

Rage of Rivendare You do 2% additional weapon damage to diseased targets

UnholyBlight A creeping swarm of unholy insects surrounds the caster for a 10yard radius. All enemies caught in the swarm take 120 damage and areplagued with a disease that can stack up to 3 times. Lasts for 1 secper 10 Runic Power


Hungering Cold A wave of cold leeches allheat from the earth, freezing all enemies in the cone-shaped area, andcausing 10 damage per Runic Power. The frozen terrain persists for 1sec per 10 Runic Power and will freeze enemies that attempt to cross it

Druid

Improved Moonkin Form Rank 1-3

ImprovedTree of Life: "Increases your Armor while in Tree of Life Form by $s1%,and increases the effect of your Bark's Blessing by $s2%"

LivingSeed: "When you gain a critical effect from your Swiftmend, Regrowth,Nourish or Healing Touch spell you have a $h% chance to plant a LivingSeed on the target for $s1% of the amount healed. The Living Seed willbloom when the target is next attacked. Lasts $48504d."

Spark of Nature: "Increases the critical effect chance of your Swiftmend and Nourish spells by $s1%."

Nourish: Heals a friendly target for $s1. Heals for an additional $/4;s1 if Rejuvenation is on the target.

FlourishHeals friendly party or raid members within $a1 yards of the target for$o1 over $d. The healing is applied quickly at first, and slows down asthe Flourish reaches its full duration

Blinding Swarm A swarm ofinsects that inflicts $s1 Nature damage to targets standing in theswarm. Chance to hit reduced by $m2% while standing in the swarm

Nature'sFury Converts $s2% of your bonus healing into bonus spell damage. Inaddition, your Wrath and Starfire spells have a $h% chance of applyingthe Nature's Fury debuff on the target. The Nature's Fury debuffincreases Nature and Arcane damage done to the target by 2%. Lasts 10sec. Stacks up to 3 times

Starfall You summon a flurry of starsfrom the sky on all targets within 30 yards of the caster, each doing$50288s1 Arcane damage, and an additional $50294s1 Arcane to all nearbytargets within 10 yards. Maximum 20 stars. Lasts $d

InfectedWounds Your Shred, Maul and Mangle attacks have a $h% chance to causean Infected Wound in the target. The Infected Wound reduces themovement speed and casting speed of the target by $48482s1%. Stacks upto 5 times. Lasts $48482

Berserk Removes all Stun, Fear, Snareand Movement Impairing Effects and increases your energy regenerationrate by 100% while in Cat form, and increases your total health by 20%while in Bear form. After the effect ends, the health is lost. Effectlasts 20 seconds

Mage

NEW PERMAFROST "Adds a Chill effect to your Icy Touch and Mind Freeze, reducing movement speed by 30% for 6 sec."

New food = sweet potato pie and strudles
New water = something stupid who cares

NetherwindPresence Gives your Arcane Missiles, Arcane Barrage, Arcane Blast,Fireball, Frostbolt and Frostfire Bolt spells a $h% chance to cause thenext Arcane Blast, Fireball, Frostbolt or Frostfire Bolt to be instant

Arcane Barrage Launches several missiles at the enemy target, causing $s1 Arcane damage

BurnoutIncreases your spell critical damage bonus with all Fire spells by $s1%but every time you critical with a Fire spell you lose an additional$44450s1% of your total mana

Living Bomb The caster becomes aliving bomb, causing $44459s1 Fire damage to all enemies within$44459a1 yards every $44457t1 sec. After $44457t2 sec, a fieryexplosion occurs causing an additional $44461s1 Fire damage to allenemies within $44461a1 yards

Chilled to the Bone Increases thedamage caused by your Frostbolt and Ice Lance spells by $s1% andreduces the movement speed of all chilled targets by an additional $s2%

TundraStalker You deal 2% more melee damage to targets under the effects ofIcy Touch, Chains of Ice, Howling Blast or Hungering Cold

Deep Freeze Stuns the target for $d. Only usable on Frozen targets


Pally

Martyr: "Redirect all harmful spells directed at friendly targets to yourself for $d."

Priest

DivineProvidence Increases the amount healed by Circle of Healing, BindingHeal, Prayer of Healing and Prayer of Mending by $s1%

Gives youa chance to gain a $49694s1% bonus to your Spirit after gaining acritical effect chance from your Mind Blast or Shadow Word: Deathspells. For the duration, your mana will regenerate at a $49694s2% ratewhile casting. Lasts $49694d

Penance Launches a volley of holylight at the target, causing $47666s1 Holy damage to an enemy, or$47750s1 healing to an ally every $47758t2 sec for $47758

Mind Rot Drains $o1 mana from the target over $d.Mana drain, $s1 points every 5 seconds

RaptureCauses your party members to gain mana equal to ${$m1/2}.1% of thehealing done by your Greater Heal, Flash Heal and Penance spells

GuardianSpirit Calls upon a guardian spirit to heal and watch over the friendlytarget. The spirit heals the target for 624 every 2 sec, and alsoprevents the target from dying by sacrificing itself. Lasts $48151d

GrowingPains Converts $s3% of your bonus healing into bonus spell damage. Inaddition, your Mind Flay has a $h% chance to refresh the duration ofyour Shadow Word: Pain on the target

Dispersion You disperseinto pure shadow energy, reducing all damage taken by $s1%. You areunable to attack or cast spells, but you regenerate $s2% health andmana every 1 sec for $d

Shaman

MindShockShocks an enemy with concussive force, inflicting Nature damageand slowing attack and casting speeds by $s2% for $d.Time betweenattacks increased by $s2%.

Warrior

Bladed Armor - You gain $s1 attack power for every 1000 points of your armor value

Spell Deflection - Reduces all spell damage taken by $s1% for 10 sec following a successful parry

Titan's Grip - Allows you to equip two-handed axes, maces and swords in one hand, but you attack $s2% slower then normal

Strength of Arms Increases your Strength and total health by $s1%

BladestormInstantly Whirlwind all nearby targets and for the next $d you willperform a whirlwind attack every $t1 seconds. While under the effectsof Bladestorm, you can move but cannot perform any other attacks orabilities but you do not feel pity or remorse or fear and you cannot bestopped unless killed

Heroic Leap Leap through the air and slamdown on all enemies within $a3 yards of the target area, causing $s2%weapon damage and dazing them for $d

Sword and Board When yourDevastate and Shield Slam abilities deal damage they have a $h% chanceof refreshing the cooldown of your Shield Slam ability and reducing itscost by $50227s1% for $50227

Shockwave Sends a wave of force infront of the warrior, causing ${$m3/100*$AP} damage (based on attackpower) and stunning all enemy targets within $a1 yards in a frontalcone for $d. This ability causes a high amount of threat

Warlock

"Whilethe Succubus is active, physical attacks done to you or your Succubushave a chance to heal you or your Succubus instead of doing damage. Thehealing caused by Love Struck will not exceed 50% of the Warlock orSuccubus' total health. This effect has a 6 second cooldown."

Mind Twisting Deals $s1 damage and knocks the targets up in the air

NightmareAssaultthe target's mind, causing a powerful nightmare that deals $s2 Shadowdamage to all enemies within 10 yards of the target. Lasts $d

EverlastingAffliction Your Corruption, Siphon Life and Seed of Corruption spellsgain an additional $s2% of your bonus spell damage effects, and yourDrain Life and Shadow Bolt spells have a $h% chance to reset theduration of your Corruption spell on the target

Atrocity You devastate the area, causing Corruption (Rank
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to all targets within 15 yards. In addition, your Corruption spell willdo 434 Shadow damage to the target when it finishes its duration

DecimateYour next Shadow or Fire spell is instant cast, and does damage in theform of Chaos damage, ignoring all resistances, absorption, andimmunity mechanics. After the end of the Decimated cast, you becomeexhausted, disabling you from casting a spell of the same school for 3sec.

Eternal Flames Your Searing Pain and Incinerate spells havea $h% chance to refresh the duration of your Immolate spell on thetarget, and increases the critical strike damage of your Destructionspells by an additional $s2%

Demonic Pact Increases your Spiritby $s1% while your Demon is active. In addition, your pet attacks havea $s2% chance to increase your party's total Health and Damage by$48090s1%. Stacks up to 3 times. Lasts $48090

Metamorphosis Youtransform into a Demon, with full health and mana. While in Demon Form,you gain Demonic abilities and your armor is increased to 360%, butyour pet no longer is summoned

When leaving Demon Form, your health and mana is returned back to normal and your pet is re-summoned.
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PS: Kael'Thas Sunstrider down :001:
 
Ainda está em alpha. Aliás salvo erro o level cap até está em 74 por enquanto.

Quanto a a feral druids, estou é a vêr talents/abilities/whatever de outras classes com novos nomes ...

InfectedWounds - Tipo crippling poison dos rogues
Berserk - Warrior berserker stance(cat form) meets Warrior Last Stand(bear form)
 
HAHAHAHAHA warriors a fazer dual wield de 2 handers!!! HULK SMASH! São duas lolheralds para a mesa do canto sff.

Já agora, demon form de lock?

E de onde vieram estes talentos? AFAIK até pode ser o wet dream de um fanboi qq.
 
Berserk Removes all Stun, Fear, Snareand Movement Impairing Effects and increases your energy regenerationrate by 100% while in Cat form, and increases your total health by 20%while in Bear form. After the effect ends, the health is lost. Effectlasts 20 seconds
Last Stand Improved para bears??? Warriors /reroll -.-'

Titan's Grip - ZOMG Dual Stoneherald, queres ver q warriors vão dar apenas dps agora?

Locks já não eram OP suficientes, então agora bates-lhes e curam-se...muito bom -.-' Decimate e Demon Form...Não há duvida..Blizz loves locks...
 
Gostava que isso fosse verdade mas quando olho para os talentos de warrior parece-me altamente improvável. E também quem raio quer jogar com um urso se podes usar two handeds em cada mão =D
 
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