AMD: 45nm, DDR3 and Socket AM3 in 2008

De facto...já falam destes barcelonas há algum tempo, vêem com Teraflops e tal...até já falaram em unificação gráfica num futuro próximo...mas neste momento, só vemos uma R600 com muitos percalços e um resultado final um pouco dúbio e o processador nem vê-lo...

Se vives perto de São Francisco podes dar um saltinho à "Party" para ver o "bicho" em acção.

AMD is Throwing a Party!
On the evening of May 10th, AMD is throwing a party in San Francisco for you! There will be demos of the soon-to-market Barcelona and Radeon 2900 XT as well as the chance the play SupCom on some of the newest AMD hardware. AMD staff will be there to answer your questions. Our own HardForum members will get priority and are encouraged to take pictures and post about the event. Please email [email protected] with an invitation request for you and a guest. I will be there as well as other Web journalists to partake in the fun. You must be 21 and IDs will be checked at the door. See you there, Kyle!

http://hardocp.com/
 
Olha que esses valores que adiantaste parecem demasiado optimistas para um CPU com controlador de memória integrado...

Um X2 0.65nm actual necessita de um bom sistema e alguma perícia de modo ultrapassar 2.9~3Ghz. Ora o K10 0.65nm é um Qcore, o que torna difícil e mais exigente o escalonamento do core.

Na minha opinião, dados os números default que tem vindo a publico, eu diria que se escalar até aos 2.8Ghz ou pouco acima disso, já seria excelente.


Edit: Esqueci-me que também vamos ter K10 0.65 Dual-Core... Estes acredito que seja possível um escalonamento na ordem dos 3~3.5Ghz.


Baseio a minha opinião em informação que me veio parar às mãos e de certa forma "soprada" no passado dia 3 de Maio na reunião anual de acionistas da AMD.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/InvestorRelations/0,,51_306_10909,00.html

Os 3.5 Ghz em quad-core podem vir a ser uma realidade. ;)
 
AMD IS DOING something that we haven't seen a chip company do in a long time, sandbagging its official roadmaps.

A while ago we told you about the intended launch frequencies, basically 1.9-2.5GHz, but that was before B0 parts came back.


We were told that the B0 stepping was due a few weeks ago, early April to be inexact, and they've been returned for inspection. If they were clean, they would be the launch stepping, and the Q2 date was do-able. If not, add in another few months, and you were looking at the end of Q3, maybe.


We understand that people in Austin were 'dancing in the aisles'. When asked if that was because of B0, we were told that people are very happy, very very happy, but he had 'never heard of such a thing'.


Another source claimed the memory controller, long a bottleneck in K8 scaling, came in way better than expected.


So what do you end up with? A massive gain in frequency. How massive? Almost 500MHz. Instead of the much touted launch parts, look for five SKUs at launch, AM2 quads at 2.6GHz, 2.7GHz and 2.9GHz, a dual at 2.7GHz and a quad on socket F at 2.8GHz.


We think whoever worked this magic deserves a pat on the head, a few days off after launch, and quite possibly a raise. Twnty per cent faster out of the gate is nothing to be sneezed at. The only question that remains is what volumes AMD can deliver at these speeds. µ

http://theinq.com/default.aspx?article=39440
 
Pera lá Q2 ?? Isso significa que podemos ter os k10 até fins de junho ?!?

penso que não. Os primeiros vão ser os Opterons e vão praticamente todos paras as SUNs, HPs, Dells, Crays e afins. Só mais tarde chegarão ao público em geral em quantidade razoável. É possível que aparecem alguns no "mercado" a preços "escandalosos".
 
penso que não. Os primeiros vão ser os Opterons e vão praticamente todos paras as SUNs, HPs, Dells, Crays e afins. Só mais tarde chegarão ao público em geral em quantidade razoável. É possível que aparecem alguns no "mercado" a preços "escandalosos".

Entao quando estarão previstos os k10 dual e quad para o mercado domestico ??? será antes de agosto ??
 
Entao quando estarão previstos os k10 dual e quad para o mercado domestico ??? será antes de agosto ??

Final de Agosto/principio de Setembro é prazo previsto. Caso os K10 confirmem a expectativa actual de que estes sejam superiores aos C2D actuais e dada a pouca capacidade produtiva da AMD, não deve ser grande a disponibilidade e certamente que a 1ª remessa vai-se "evaporar" antes mesmo entrar em stock nas lojas.

Falta ainda conhecer os preços para perceber qual o enquadramento dos 1ºs K10 a chegar ao mercado. Entretanto as 1ºas boards devem chegar durante o mês de Julho.

Talvez no próximo mês de Junho já seja possível conhecermos todos os dados. O lançamento dos Opterons K10 já deve ser um forte indicador relativamente os K10 Agena e Kuma para desktop.
 
AMD’s Quad-Core Desktop Chips to Support 1066MHz Memory.

AMD Chooses High-Speed DDR2 Over DDR3 for This Year

Advanced Micro Devices said that it may support DDR2 PC2-8500 memory standard with its forthcoming quad-core microprocessors for high-performance desktops later this year. The claim means that the company will support DDR2 memory for quite some time from now on with its quad-core chips.

“In the design of our upcoming native quad-core client processors, which we expect will be available in the second half of 2007, AMD is planning for DDR2-1066 memory support in our integrated memory controller with the expectation that it will be compatible with any future JEDEC standard that may be adopted,” said Bob Brewer, corporate vice president and general manager of AMD’s desktop division.
AMD’s quad-core microprocessors for desktops are expected to emerge after the company releases its quad-core server chips. The new central processing units, which feature monolithic, or “native” design, will be built using AMD’s 65nm Silicon-on-Insulator (SOI) fabrication process. The forthcoming microprocessors will include a broad range of functionality and micro-architectural improvements, including a new ability to dynamically alter the frequency of each core on the chip to match application workloads and thereby reduce overall power consumption, large level-three cache and so on.
“Dependent upon validated platforms and JEDEC support, AMD hopes Micron’s innovative DDR2 1066MHz memory modules will provide an exemplary DRAM technology that can extend existing system designs and offer next-generation memory performance at a competitive price point,” Mr. Brewer added, commenting Micron’s release of PC2-8500 memory chips.
It was rumoured many months ago that AMD was going to support DDR3 in 2007 with its AM2+/AM3 platforms. However, AMD pushed AM3 processor form-factor into 2008, just like DDR3. As a result, the company needed something, which would be on par with Intel’s 3-series chipsets that support PC3-8500 (DDR3 1066MHz), but would not compromise stability or compatibility with standards. The new DDR2 speed-bin is a good candidate to provide sufficient bandwidth for AMD’s quad-core chips.



http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070504112426.html
 
AMD’s Quad-Core Desktop Chips to Support 1066MHz Memory.

AMD Chooses High-Speed DDR2 Over DDR3 for This Year

Já aquando da DDR haviam rumores k a AMD podia adoptar oficialmente DDR-500 o k nunca chegou a acontecer ( k por acaso foi uma noticia k li no mesmo site) por isso é esperar por uma confirmação official.

Mas sem duvida k ia estragar a festa a INTEL.
 
Para quem não pode ir:

http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MjU2OTYsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE

Olhem para o 8Core tão sorridente a fazer compressão H264/1080P em tempo real.

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Among the product demos that AMD brought along, especially two products stood out: First, the company showed off the Agena FX quad-core processor, running in tandem with ATI R600 graphics cards as well as DDR2-1066 memory in two test systems. Agena FX is the desktop version of the “Barcelona” Opteron quad-core processor and is scheduled to be launched sometime after Barcelona, which apparently is still on track for a mid-2007 introduction.

AMD had two systems on display, a single-socket “Hammerhead” quad-core Agena FX system as well as a “Wahoo” dual-socket eight-core system, which extends AMD’s dual-socket enthusiast system approach. Details about Agena FX, which is rumored to launch with clock speeds up to 2.9 GHz, were not disclosed and AMD avoided showing any benchmark performance numbers. However, the eight-core system was able to convert 720p video from one format to another (the company declined to comment on file formats) in real time – while maxing out all eight cores at the same time.

AMD dual-socket Agena FX quad-core platform:
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Somewhat unexpected was a demonstration of AMD’s stream processor – basically an adjusted graphics processor. Stream processing demos so far focused on distributed computing or scientific applications. But if AMD has its way, the good old graphics processor may be used as a “general purpose” engine also in consumer software. Two demos were on display, one showcasing rendering, movement recognition and physics, and the other face recognition. Both applications were clearly in an early stage, but they did show off the advantage of a GPU that can take one massively parallel tasks and bring applications such as face and much more reliable voice recognition one step closer to reality.

AMD demonstrated real-time face recognition on a GPU:
stream3.jpg


The first steps into this direction, to which AMD refers to as “accelerated computing” will happen with the release of the “Fusion” processor, which is planned to surface in 2009. While AMD considers the GPU integration in Fusion as a solution that mainly targets mainstream notebooks and offers benefits in terms of power efficiency, production cost and some performance advantages such as reduced latencies, the company hopes that the GPU part evolves into a “general purpose” processing engine over time: By 2012, the company said, software code could be optimized and the potential of a heterogeneous CPU/GPU could be “exploited”.
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/31977/118/

Reparem que a R600 ta a funcionar so com 1 cabo de power. Isto é igual a chipset ATI RD7xx a rodar em PCI Express 2.0 conjuntamente com a R600 que tb suporta a proxima geração PCI-E.
 
Deves estar a confundir alguma coisa.
Ele está a fazer transcoding (diferente de encoding. Caso o codec do vídeo original também seja H.264 o trabalho é bem menos pesado) de 1080p para H.264 a 720p.

Eu não estou a confundir nada. Transcoding = decode + code, ou seja, mais pesado de uma forma geral. Claro que se podem fazer optimizações quando os formatos são parecidos. No entanto sei por outra fonte que uma das demos é o encode a H.264 1080P em tempo real.
 
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