[AMD Athlon64] - Duvidas? - Será que vale a pena?
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Escrapela disse:Boas ppl do Hardware sou novo nestas andanças mas tou aki pra perguntar o k axam da motherboard msi k8n neo2 pa um a64 3200+?
Fico á espera das voças respostas
Essa é a de S939 certo? Se fôr tenhu uma cá em casa e é bastante boa, talvez mesmo a melhor board pa S939 actualmente, tem é atenção e se fores arranjar uma certificate k no chipset diz "Korea" e n "Taiwan", e k foi feita numa semana de novembro, pk as de "Taiwan" anteriores a novembro têm problemas.
Escrapela
Power Member
Será?
Sim é isso tudo tb por 158€ tenhu de comprar uma coisa boa . já agora sabes se as k se vendem na ***** são dessas da Koreia ??
Já agora dizme o ke axas desta configuração
Board + a64 3200+ A-data512mb pc4000 ddr500 disco 200gb maxtor sata e a grafica fica para o ano mas deve ser uma sparkle 6600gt.
que axas ?
Sim é isso tudo tb por 158€ tenhu de comprar uma coisa boa . já agora sabes se as k se vendem na ***** são dessas da Koreia ??
Já agora dizme o ke axas desta configuração
Board + a64 3200+ A-data512mb pc4000 ddr500 disco 200gb maxtor sata e a grafica fica para o ano mas deve ser uma sparkle 6600gt.
que axas ?
NPinho
I folded Myself
Escrapela disse:Sim é isso tudo tb por 158€ tenhu de comprar uma coisa boa . já agora sabes se as k se vendem na ***** são dessas da Koreia ??
Já agora dizme o ke axas desta configuração
Board + a64 3200+ A-data512mb pc4000 ddr500 disco 200gb maxtor sata e a grafica fica para o ano mas deve ser uma sparkle 6600gt.
que axas ?
O material na ***** normalmente é recente (vem X board em em pco essas Xboard ja foram...) vem varios stocks, pk a ***** faz encomendas pequenas.
Quanto a esse sistema, está 5*
BlitZ
Power Member
Parece que temos novidades em Janeiro nos Athlon64 
AMD projects January Shock'n'Awe
Surprises up sleevies
By Charlie Demerjian: Sunday 05 December 2004, 11:19
ABOUT A WEEK AGO there were various laments about AMD missing a golden opportunity to shout its advantages from the rooftops.
The problem is that while AMD is technically missing an opportunity, it is doing it purposely, keeping quiet so it doesn't ruin the big surprise(1) in January. If you have two dog and pony shows in a few months, you lose the impact of the second one.
The whole thing started about a year and a half ago when IBM seemingly begrudgingly gave AMD the 'good' 90 nanometre process, and with a stroke of the pen made most of AMD's process problems go away. This meant reworking the plans and delaying the 90nm chips a Q or two. If you look closely at the record, you can see when AMD went from cautious to grinning widely when mentioning 90nm.
That delay meant the first generation of 90nm chips, basically a dumb shrink of the current 130nm chips, were 'late', and came within months of the second generation, due to be announced in late January. Make no mistake, the 'dumb' 90nm chips are very good, and if AMD ever published the power figures accurately, something it is blindingly bad at doing, you would see how good the things really are.
The problem is that the second gen parts are vastly improved chips. They will have such goodies as SSE3 and DDR2, but that most likely won't be turned on initially. This new stepping is the one worth shouting from the rooftops, and AMD will.
You can see the dilemma though, scream until people get bored, and then scream again when they are really bored with the message they should get, or sit back and wait. But I think AMD is doing the right thing here. It has a compelling lineup for 2005, and it intends to start it with a real bang. µ
(1) According to our server logs, the majority of humanity still does not read The INQ. While this is reprehensible, it does mean that AMD has a chance at surprising a good many people with the news
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AMD projects January Shock'n'Awe
Surprises up sleevies
By Charlie Demerjian: Sunday 05 December 2004, 11:19
ABOUT A WEEK AGO there were various laments about AMD missing a golden opportunity to shout its advantages from the rooftops.
The problem is that while AMD is technically missing an opportunity, it is doing it purposely, keeping quiet so it doesn't ruin the big surprise(1) in January. If you have two dog and pony shows in a few months, you lose the impact of the second one.
The whole thing started about a year and a half ago when IBM seemingly begrudgingly gave AMD the 'good' 90 nanometre process, and with a stroke of the pen made most of AMD's process problems go away. This meant reworking the plans and delaying the 90nm chips a Q or two. If you look closely at the record, you can see when AMD went from cautious to grinning widely when mentioning 90nm.
That delay meant the first generation of 90nm chips, basically a dumb shrink of the current 130nm chips, were 'late', and came within months of the second generation, due to be announced in late January. Make no mistake, the 'dumb' 90nm chips are very good, and if AMD ever published the power figures accurately, something it is blindingly bad at doing, you would see how good the things really are.
The problem is that the second gen parts are vastly improved chips. They will have such goodies as SSE3 and DDR2, but that most likely won't be turned on initially. This new stepping is the one worth shouting from the rooftops, and AMD will.
You can see the dilemma though, scream until people get bored, and then scream again when they are really bored with the message they should get, or sit back and wait. But I think AMD is doing the right thing here. It has a compelling lineup for 2005, and it intends to start it with a real bang. µ
(1) According to our server logs, the majority of humanity still does not read The INQ. While this is reprehensible, it does mean that AMD has a chance at surprising a good many people with the news
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o_eRviNNhaS
Power Member
boas
eu tenho uma grande duvida nao em relação ao A64, mas sim ao modo como o vou arrefecer...
neste momento a refrigeração do pc é a h2o com o sistema da sig, mas esta semana vou mudar para a64 3400+ s754 e a board é uma asus K8N-E Deluxe.
agora eu gostava era de saber se o bloco que vou utilizar é o mesmo ou tenho de comprar outro???
a mim o que me disseram é que apenas precisava do encaixe novopara o bloco prender à board.
é assim? o que faço? e ja agora, a ***** vende so o encaixe?
cumps e obrigado
eu tenho uma grande duvida nao em relação ao A64, mas sim ao modo como o vou arrefecer...
neste momento a refrigeração do pc é a h2o com o sistema da sig, mas esta semana vou mudar para a64 3400+ s754 e a board é uma asus K8N-E Deluxe.
agora eu gostava era de saber se o bloco que vou utilizar é o mesmo ou tenho de comprar outro???
a mim o que me disseram é que apenas precisava do encaixe novopara o bloco prender à board.
é assim? o que faço? e ja agora, a ***** vende so o encaixe?
cumps e obrigado
P4rthen0n
Power Member
DDR2 vais meter aonde?BlitZ disse:Parece que temos novidades em Janeiro nos Athlon64
AMD projects January Shock'n'Awe
Surprises up sleevies
By Charlie Demerjian: Sunday 05 December 2004, 11:19
ABOUT A WEEK AGO there were various laments about AMD missing a golden opportunity to shout its advantages from the rooftops.
The problem is that while AMD is technically missing an opportunity, it is doing it purposely, keeping quiet so it doesn't ruin the big surprise(1) in January. If you have two dog and pony shows in a few months, you lose the impact of the second one.
The whole thing started about a year and a half ago when IBM seemingly begrudgingly gave AMD the 'good' 90 nanometre process, and with a stroke of the pen made most of AMD's process problems go away. This meant reworking the plans and delaying the 90nm chips a Q or two. If you look closely at the record, you can see when AMD went from cautious to grinning widely when mentioning 90nm.
That delay meant the first generation of 90nm chips, basically a dumb shrink of the current 130nm chips, were 'late', and came within months of the second generation, due to be announced in late January. Make no mistake, the 'dumb' 90nm chips are very good, and if AMD ever published the power figures accurately, something it is blindingly bad at doing, you would see how good the things really are.
The problem is that the second gen parts are vastly improved chips. They will have such goodies as SSE3 and DDR2, but that most likely won't be turned on initially. This new stepping is the one worth shouting from the rooftops, and AMD will.
You can see the dilemma though, scream until people get bored, and then scream again when they are really bored with the message they should get, or sit back and wait. But I think AMD is doing the right thing here. It has a compelling lineup for 2005, and it intends to start it with a real bang. µ
(1) According to our server logs, the majority of humanity still does not read The INQ. While this is reprehensible, it does mean that AMD has a chance at surprising a good many people with the news
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SSE3 ja sao old news... versao E dos A64...
APLinhares
OpenSource
SSE3 ja sao old news... versao E dos A64... ?
como assim ?
como assim ?
CoolAlex
Power Member
Eu tb ja ando a estudar um upgrade ao sistema q esta na minha sig...Mas eu nao tou a pescar nadinha dos A64...2 tipos de socket???Qual o melhor???Sendo assim independentemte do €€€ digam la qual o sistema que aconselhavam??? (Board, cpu...) Ja agora... as mems...que tipo de mems usa um sistema A64???DDR ou DDR2??? Enfim...tou mesmo perdido 
APLinhares
OpenSource
eskece ddr2... lolololol, n ha ainda suporte em a64.
mas n n interessa o $ ne ?
pa, kalker board socket 939, asus, abit, msi ... serve perfeitamente, dps depende do uso k lhe kiseres dar... 1 cpu bom pode ser 4.0+ ou FX
barato s s for o 3.0+...
memorias, kalker coisa com xips TCCD é da moda
abraço
mas n n interessa o $ ne ?
pa, kalker board socket 939, asus, abit, msi ... serve perfeitamente, dps depende do uso k lhe kiseres dar... 1 cpu bom pode ser 4.0+ ou FX
barato s s for o 3.0+...memorias, kalker coisa com xips TCCD é da moda
abraço
BlitZ
Power Member
Viva pessoal
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MSI Radeon XPress 200, Asus nForce4 SLI, MSI nForce4 Ultra, and Asus KT890 boards
Podem lêr artigo aqui: http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=a64cso&cookie_test=1
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Aqui algo mais serio.... as 4 melhores Board's SLI levadas a fundo (vale a pena!) na Anandtech ... tinha de ser
nForce4 SLI Roundup: Painful and Rewarding
Podem lêr artigo aqui: http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2358
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(tenho me andado a baldar
mas não tenho tido muito tempo, a vêr se consigo arranjar mais tempo)
Um comparativo interessante na GamePc: Plataformas PCI-E
MSI Radeon XPress 200, Asus nForce4 SLI, MSI nForce4 Ultra, and Asus KT890 boards
Podem lêr artigo aqui: http://www.gamepc.com/labs/print_content.asp?id=a64cso&cookie_test=1
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aqui algo mais serio.... as 4 melhores Board's SLI levadas a fundo (vale a pena!) na Anandtech ... tinha de ser
nForce4 SLI Roundup: Painful and Rewarding
Podem lêr artigo aqui: http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2358
[[]]
(tenho me andado a baldar
mas não tenho tido muito tempo, a vêr se consigo arranjar mais tempo)